But that may not be the case.

Well, Delilah's crash is a perfect example of that.

Delilah's crash involved a freight broker.

And so in previous times, these freight brokers weren't held responsible because of their interpretation of a law they call F4A that said that the middleman was not responsible for the selection of the carrier in the crash.

The Supreme Court had a unanimous decision this May that changed that interpretation, said, no, in fact, freight brokers can now be held responsible for the negligent selection of these motor carriers involved in these crashes.

And so we during the same window.

We had a phenomenon here where there was a group of middlemen that were able to say, okay, I'm going to use this driver that's not qualified.

But is there something when it comes to the responsibilities the trucking companies themselves should have to verify that the drivers meet all applicable federal laws? Because we know that this can be implemented through the states, like you said, but there are many federal laws being violated as well.

decided to step up so you know we talked a little bit in the intro about your background in the trucking industry so touch on that a little but then go into what drove you and your other co-founders to start American Truckers United

Yeah.

So been in the business for a really long time.

Second generation went straight into trucking.

And so, you know, school hard knocks just from everything from driving a forklift, putting trucks to the dock and driving a truck and and then, you know, naturally transitioned into operations and then transitioned into sales and.

And so we did sales for a really long time, but it was the financial crisis of 08 where we faced a very large storm.

I guess it was a financial storm.

So maybe you can address that a little bit and support those American truck drivers who really want to serve and keep America moving.

Why is it even acceptable to even think about letting the quote-unquote legal, which are all scams, aliens here compete against American truck drivers, sir?

It's never been designed for that.

So the whole process of these illegal alien truck drivers coming into the system have been coming in through loopholes.

And these loopholes, no one has been exposing those or working against those until we stood up American Truckers United.

Our own trade associations were actively campaigning for more immigration and more immigration into America.

into the trucking industry.

And so these loopholes or these misinterpretations of the law were expanded.

Is that too hard to ask? Is there enough Americans to fill these jobs right now, sir?

Why do we even – why is it even acceptable to even think about – letting the quote-unquote legal, which are all scams, aliens here compete against American truck drivers, sir?

It's never been designed for that.

So the whole process of these illegal alien truck drivers coming into the system have been coming in through loopholes.

And these loopholes, no one has been exposing those or working against those until we stood up American Truckers United.

Our own trade associations were actively campaigning for more immigration and more immigration into America.

into the trucking industry.

And so these loopholes or these misinterpretations of the law were expanded.

There should be no, the trucking industry and the companies, there should be no legal, quote, unquote, with the H1Bs and all the scams that we have 90 million, quote, unquote, legal companies immigrants here right which we should have a 10-year moratorium that should get a cdl and compete against an american driver we should just have a policy that if you ain't an american citizen you cannot get a commercial driver's license and compete against america is that too hard to ask is there enough americans to fill these jobs right now sir

yeah so my my first thought and tell me i'm wrong is that this is the same thing they're good good but what needs to happen is you need to go after the companies who are hiring the illegal aliens as drivers absolutely okay

yeah and so that's part of that's part of the good news yesterday because they announced they announced partnership with u.s attorney's office and so for the first time The USDOT now has a coordinated task force that has badges and guns because the FMCSA, which is the trucking enforcement arm of the USDOT, they don't have badges and guns.

And so with this new task force, they do have badges and guns.

But what's the crime? But what's the crime? A guy with an illicitly issued non-domiciled CDL that come into the country illegally is you still have to have a law enforcement officer interdict him at some point.

So they've got to have an interaction with him.

They've got to find out that he's got the license.

So that's boots on the ground.

But why have we not done another one since last October, September?

I think we've got I think we have some good news to report, at least some better news, sir.

Yeah, we do.

You know, this week, the interim final ruling that Secretary Duffy implemented late last year became law on Monday.

And so no longer are states allowed to issue illegal aliens, what are called these non-domiciled CDLs.

We still have the challenge of all of the ones that have been issued.

So all of the truck drivers that have been issued these licenses are on the road.

But thank goodness, you know, because of the efforts of President Trump and what Secretary Duffy's been doing, they can no longer issue any more of these.

But we need to go back on the somewhere between 200,000 and 870,000, 876,000 to make sure that we pull all the driver's license from these guys who are on the road right now killing American citizens, sir.

Uh, I think we've got, uh, s- I think we have some good news to report, or at least some better news, sir.

Yeah, we do.

Uh, you know, this week the interim final ruling that Secretary Duffy implemented late last year became, became law on Monday, and so no longer are states allowed to issue, uh, illegal aliens these non, what are called these non-domiciled CDLs.

Uh, we still have the challenge of all of the ones that have been issued, so all of the truck drivers that have been issued these licenses are on the road.

Uh, but thank goodness, you know, because of the efforts of President Trump and what Secretary Duffy's been doing, uh, they can no longer issue any more of these.

Uh, there's also, uh, advancement right now on the Delilah Law, which is the law that the president announced during his State of the Union address, uh, in the, in the honor of the little girl that was hit by a truck in California by an illegal alien.

So, I'm actually here in Washington, DC right now advocating on behalf of her family for the passage of Senate Bill S3917, which is the Delilah Law.

Yeah.

What is the core purpose behind Delilah's Law?

Yeah, so, you know, we've been advocating for some correction in what we've been seeing with international CDLs and non-domicile CDLs and English proficiency.

And so we were really excited to see Senator Banks introduce Delilah's Law.

You know, we had met with his staff several weeks prior to the introduction of that bill.

We've been working with the the Coleman family leading up to the introduction of this bill.

And so it really addresses some of the key issues that we've raised.

And that is the lack of training and qualification of all the drivers who have received this illicit license that has predominantly gone to illegal aliens.

That is sad.

What, what, what happened last night? What transpired last night from the warning you gave a year ago?

ago?...

What a beautiful scene, Steve Bannon.

You know, I always, I always tell people in my prayer group, in my prayer warriors, uh, that God's miracles usually show up after an act of love, and what we saw last night was we saw President Trump loving on a little girl, loving on a little girl that didn't deserve to be in, in that accident.

Uh, that- an accident that could have been avoided and could have been prevented, uh, had, uh, our legislators and our federal agencies, uh, been putting safety first and putting our people first instead of politics.

And so, uh, just a, a beautiful moment, and I, I know that, uh, that God was in it, because so many people have been praying for an answer, an answer to the public safety crisis that we have, the national security crisis that we have, but also, uh, the devastation that's taken place in the trucking industry as all of these illegal immigrants have come in here and replaced all of our hardworking, safe American truck drivers.

And now with that declaration that the president made last night, uh, of his support for Delilah's Law, I think for the first time, you're seeing a smile on this guy's face [chuckles] as I'm seeing God really move in this moment.

What would you- what would your advice be to the president to make sure that this is as good as we can get for right now, that this takes care of the problem that you guys have identified?

What happened last night? What transpired last night from the warning you gave a year ago?

What a beautiful scene, Steve Bannon.

You know, I always tell people in my prayer group and my prayer warriors that God's miracles usually show up after an act of love.

And what we saw last night was we saw President Trump loving on a little girl, loving on a little girl that didn't deserve to be in that accident scene.

that an accident that could have been avoided and could have been prevented had our legislators and our federal agencies been putting safety first and putting our people first instead of politics.

And so just a beautiful moment.

And I know that God was in it because so many people have been praying for an answer, an answer to the public safety crisis that we have, the national security crisis that we have, but also the devastation that's taken place in the trucking industry as all of these illegal immigrants have come in here and replaced all of our hardworking, safe American truck drivers.

What would your advice be to the president to make sure that this is as good as we can get for right now, that this takes care of the problem that you guys have identified?

We as an industry have made those choices.

Yeah, and so where that takes us is who's accountable for all of what we've seen in the industry.

You know, for the last two years, we've been working on a campaign of really bringing awareness and transparency into exactly what's taken place and how we've gotten here.

But now there's this conversation in the Supreme Court, which is the Montgomery versus Kribe case, which talks about who's accountable.

And so, you know, the conversation thus far has been really framed around this F4A conversation.

about immunity.

But we want to bring up a more pressing issue that's related to all of that.

And I think people need to go back to that history book and realize where it started.

By the way, just to, just to, just to verify, that's a false narrative, Shannon? There is not a driver shortage?

Absolutely.

It's supply and demand.

You know, when you flood supply, when you flood in all of these illegal alien truck drivers, y-it goes back to what I was describing earli-earlier about the working conditions of our truck drivers and of the pay of our, our truck drivers.

American truck drivers just aren't willing to work for slave wages.

They're not willing to be treated like indentured servants.

And so do we have drivers leaving the industry? Yes.

So in other words, what will end the illegal trucker problem is actually technology, is actually AI.

We're gonna tell them, "Take your Sharia law and shove it!"

Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas.

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Where do we go, uh, Shannon?

Amen.

Follow us on X, @ATUTruckers.

That's the same tag on all the social media websites, and then you can go to our physical website at www.americantruckers.com.

Just walk us through what our dilemma is, what we've solved, the good news, and what we've got to solve.

The gr- the great news is now people know that we have a problem.

You know, for the last five to 10 years, people didn't understand the real issue here of safety on our highways being driven mostly by unqualified and un- unvetted illegal alien truck drivers, and so, a huge success with getting the message out.

Our social medias have been on fire.

There's also a new army of, of people in social media engagement that have now picked up this issue.

The mainstream media has picked up on the issue.

But getting to the, the solution is, is where we're struggling now, and, and that's because we have support from the executive branch.

Mm-hmm.

Tell me what ha- how did this tragedy happen, and, and, and, S- Shannon, what do we have to do? What does this audience have to do to have your back to stop this?

Absolutely.

Thank you, Steve.

You know, I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the War Room Policy and to you, Steve Bannon, because we did accomplish the mission of elevating this message and bringing the message to, uh, the attention of the national media and the American people.

Because, you know, prior to coming on your show almost a year ago, the American people did not know that they were driving up and down the highways with a bunch of illegal alien truck drivers who weren't properly qualified, weren't properly trained, and hadn't been vetted.

You know, we didn't, we don't even know who these drivers are, and that's because, like in the case of the recent crash that we had just here in Indiana, these guys have snuck across the border, uh, either using the app-... or some other, uh, means of, of getting into the country.

They come into these sanctuary cities, uh, they apply for asylum, and the loophole that has existed has been these asylum requests and these EAD cards.

Am I correct in that assumption?

Tell me, how did this tragedy happen? And Shannon, what do we have to do? What does this audience have to do to have your back to stop this?

Absolutely.

Thank you, Steve.

I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the War Room Posse and to you, Steve Bannon, because we did accomplish the mission of elevating this message and bringing the message to the attention of the national media and the American people.

Because prior to coming on your show almost a year ago, the American people did not know that they were driving up and down the highways with a bunch of illegal alien truck drivers who weren't properly qualified, weren't properly trained, and hadn't been vetted.

We don't even know who these drivers are.

And that's because, like in the case of the recent crash that we had just here in Indiana, these guys have snuck across the border either using the app.

Am I correct in that assumption?

Yeah.

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the only countries that seem to be flooding the American trucking industry right now are, uh, countries like Ethiopia, India, uh, Ecuador, Honduras.

It's all places where these people are used to not making, uh, the same prevailing wage that an American truck driver makes.

And so, uh, th- over the last four or five years, our industry has been flooded in certain zones around the country, and we've really done a good job here lately of tying this all together of exactly where they're coming in.

And I'm sure you can probably (laughs) guess exactly, uh, where, where they're landing, and that's the sanctuary states across the country that everyone's been talking about.

But we've also had a recent development where we've seen that even some red states, uh, have a little of this w- labor dumping situation going on with truck drivers, but in democratic-

Wow.

What is the logic of that, sir?

Well, there, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, an irresponsible logic that's been parroted by the lobbyist group in, in Washington, DC.

And so, it's, it's, it's not necessary.

You know, there's been this narrative that's been, that's been, uh, pushed out into the industry that says that we have a driver shortage.

And it always continuously seems to be the same number of 80,000 drivers.

When we first started, uh, bringing awareness to this issue, we found very quickly that we had over six million CDLs as reported by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration's website online.

But when we made that statement, when we made that claim, it was like, "Well, that, that number's bad.

Uh, w- what's immunity in this situation? Who grants it?

Shannon, with the president obviously taking action here and getting involved in this now, what shape is the American trucking industry in, in your opinion, sir?

Steve, it's in the worst shape of my 25-year career.

We're in the, we're in the midst of a three-year-long, uh, freight recession.

Of course, we call it a supply crisis.

Uh, but, uh, and that situation has deteriorated rapidly over the past couple weeks as the, uh, imports coming into our seaports has, has started to slow down.

That, you know, there is a, um, I think Gore described it as an accordion effect.

There's a, there's a delay in three to four weeks of transit time, and even more in some cases, for those shipments to arrive to our ports.

Incredible.

Shannon, uh, to, to ko- Gord's, uh, point, it is d- demonstrably, is there data out there that shows that these foreign drivers are less safe, uh, drivers, or cause more accidents, or have more problems on the road than American drivers?

Uh, we, we have, uh, w- we're having trouble.

Nobody's reporting the immigration status or the residency status of a truck driver when he has an accident.

What we, uh, so we can't get down to that level yet.

I, I believe that we need a task force to go investigate this, uh, across the United States to, to better understand that and to report that and to have a requirement, uh, where that's in the crash reports.

But what we do know is that, uh, the number of fatal truck crashes and the number of injuries has risen, uh...... quite a bit over the last several years.

I think it's up 79% in the last 10 years, up, up until 2022, and, and so we actually did a graph and we've got a chart on our website at AmericanTruckers.com, uh, forward slash crash data, where you can see that, uh, that we had a, a, a con- a consistent number of injuries and fatalities in the trucking industry up until that 2016 period that Gord had described when they issued the memorandum ordering, uh, officers to no longer put a truck out of service for failing to meet the English proficiency requirement.

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