And the New York Times doesn't get up every day thinking, how can I stab, how can I go after Democrats? Is that safe to say?

I think that is safe to say.

I think they have proven that true over the decades.

Every day.

But I think that the question then becomes, have any of those people talked to federal agents? Have federal agents come to them? And now it's gonna be state agents coming to them to say, what did you know? When did you know it? I have doubts maybe they've gotten to the Schumers and the Gillibrands just yet, but maybe they have.

Maybe there are subpoenas.

And how they respond to those is going to matter a great deal.

Does she realize that? Do you think that?

Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Bream is also the host of the Live in the Bream podcast.

But man, the long-term implications are really potentially a huge bombshell because what if she does end up winning this race? The polling suggests that she's in a very good position to do that.

There are going to be a lot of questions about whether there was some, quote unquote, election fraud.

Who was involved? Because, you know, the New York Times comes out with this report.

They say they got texts and documents and interviews.

They say they've got hard evidence that shows that possibly the candidate herself, but certainly people connected to her campaign.

and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, that they were connected in this scheme to really confuse Alaska voters.

What is happening?

Is this the Trump administration playing chess or some goalposts moving? Or is this a gamble that really depends entirely on Putin?

Oh, gosh, great question.

And people across the spectrum are very skeptical of him.

And as you rightly said, a number of Republicans have come out and said, like, dude, this is a longtime KGB agent, probably responsible for all kinds of lost lives over the years.

And he's just not a guy you can trust.

And I talked to some members over the weekend, Republican members who say, we do not understand what he's doing.

We're starting to wonder what is really driving this relationship with Putin.

What did you take from it?

enthusiasm... gets sort of washed out by just sheer commitment to vote regardless of excitement.

Yeah, and you make such a great point to dig into these numbers and to see, we know in midterms it's about turning out your base.

Um, a lot of people just, it flies by, they don't care, they don't know.

There's not a presidential race on the ballot.

So we know that it's really about turnout, and these two sides have been investing millions and millions, tens, hundreds of millions of dollars in get out the vote and trying to remind people, "You gotta do it.

Here's how to do it." Republicans, who in the past may have been hesitant about early voting, mail-in voting, they are hammering that, too.

Um, they know it's about getting people to care, to be emotionally invested.

Why is this a big deal?

What are your Spidey senses watching?

Well, and I think that, you know, Republicans are having this little bit of outside hope.

The Minnesota Senate race, the New Hampshire Senate race, they feel like those are within the margin of error, and if they could pull off some surprises there, they could have a good night.

Michigan, certainly one to watch as well.

Kansas.

I mean, there are really, you know, a handful of states that will make the difference when it comes to those Senate seats.

So look to see if there are any interesting, um, hopeful signs [laughs] for Republicans in some of those unexpected seats like New Hampshire.

Do we know legally if the university did what they were supposed to do, or at least what they thought they were supposed to do, or does it look like something was missed here?

I mean, that's just the beginning of this extraordinary story.

This is gonna be the best movie.

I cannot wait to see who puts this on the screen so we can live through it because it is full of so many different heroes.

One of the first things I did when this story started bubbling up is I texted my brother, who is a commercial airline pilot.

He flew in the Navy forever.

He's flying for American now.

And I was like, "Dude, what is the deal with your co-pilot?" Because they get assigned people they may fly with them for a few legs over a couple of days, but there are so many pilots.

I mean, Iran has to be feeling massive pressure now.

Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Bream is also the host of the Livin' the Bream podcast.

The president and many others connected to the Trump administration have said, "We think, you know, in some respects, China may be behind this doomsday warning system about what could be coming." And so, you know, to a lot of people, that makes sense.

There's, you know, information suggesting there are bots, um, potentially tied to Chinese interests who are pushing a lot of the story, but there are plenty of other people coming out and putting their names and faces on it, like Dario Amodai, who say, "Listen, we know of the dangers.

We've been warning internally of the dangers from inside these frontier companies," and, um, we think that both those things can be true.

Obviously, China wants to, to beat us in the race, um, but there are real dangers.

And so Washington, you know, I, I would say even a year or two ago, they were much more closer to regulation then.

I've had conversations about these bipartisan pieces that they've been trying to work on.

Is this letter desperate, a ploy, both?

For those listening who feel like someone else's words or rejection have become maybe a voice in their head, how would you keep someone else's opinion from becoming your identity?

It's really hard.

And I think identity is such a big thing.

That's such a great question to ask and a place to focus because yeah, I was a lawyer for a few years after I got out of law school and I really, really wanted to get into journalism, into TV news.

And I went and did an internship.

I was almost 30 and they called me grandma intern because everybody else was like 20.

And I was a weirdo who was going back, you know, having my midlife crisis at 30.

And what do you feel like that season taught you personally that maybe you wouldn't have learned if you hadn't gone through it?

How can he achieve his objective and not do those things that were mentioned? If he gets us rare earth that we need, that'll help us move forward faster than they can keep up.

Right.

So there are real questions about all of those things.

And there are questions about us and the aid and the arms that we owe to Taiwan.

I mean, these are things that they've paid for.

And for years, there's been a backlog of millions and millions of dollars worth of armaments and things they need to defend themselves.

And a lot of conversation about whether President Trump is sort of, you know, pulling his punches on fulfilling those orders in order to appease Xi.

from Ken Paxton?

But there were also big hopes from people on both sides of the aisle that AI would be a Big topic of conversation between President Trump and China's President Xi Jinping at the White House this week, right?

Yeah.

And it's really interesting to see the way China views AI versus the way that we do here in the States.

As you said, I mean, the polls continually show that people are very worried about a number of things.

They're worried about the job impact and younger people are very worried about that.

the job loss potential for AI.

But then there are people who don't like the data centers because they worry about electricity costs, pollution, kind of a blight, these huge centers taking over their communities.

Which political side of the aisle are people leaning toward when it comes to AI? I think our polling indicates people seem to trust Democrats more on AI.

... before 2028? Are they going to consider again this idea of purely political gerrymandering versus some of the restrictions that have been placed on gerrymandering or redistricting that has been based on racial lines? In other words, is being a Republican in a heavily Democratic state a protected class, [laughs] right? I mean, that's the question.

Yeah.

And, and that's the thing is that they've...

You know, in the past, there's been a lot of leeway for redistricting done on political grounds.

You've gotta stay away from things that are overtly discriminatory when you talk about things like race.

Um, but even that has been, uh, you know, litigated very recently at the Court.

And so I wouldn't be surprised if we get more of this because some of what started cooking up over the last 12 months involves things that will play out in some states in the future, their next election, or you know, it's gonna be part of their legislative session next year.

Where does Guantanamo stand? Where do these tribunals stand and, and these prosecutions stand?

And just that on its surface level I think is a driving force for so many of the stories we hear in here, no?

Yeah, totally agree.

And the thing is, we see people struggle with everything we struggle with now, this collection of people from the Bible.

Some of them, it's loneliness, it's self-doubt, their own failures.

Am I so far off track that I could never get right with God? Some of them, they're literally going to battle.

I mean, they're physical danger to them.

There are threats to them on all sides.

and walked in.

So, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the guy that could be the kingmaker on the left.

Yeah, and here's the thing is there's a lot of polling out now that shows when you look at who are the most popular political figures and who are the most unpopular, he's actually down at the bottom of the list.

And I think that's because, listen, Republicans are going to say, all right, this guy is out there talking about our ally Israel and saying that he would choose Hamas a thousand times over Israel.

He thinks that the structure of this country is fundamentally wrong and needs to be changed.

But then you've got Democrats out there who don't like him, at least the mainstream, because they're like, all right, dude, You're super popular with young people, with the Twitch, you know, the streaming and all of that kind of stuff.

But when it comes down to it, they think he's going to really hurt them in the general election.

And he's telling Democrats, you've got to embrace me.

In your mind, Shannon Bream, this is very different from the Tea Party, right? This is very different from the Freedom Caucus.

But at that time, the country was still growing.

Right.

And so, I mean, originally the court was six justices.

And, you know, a lot of folks will say the founders did not foresee that the court was going to be the final arbiter on so many of these really difficult controversial issues.

They would have made it an odd number probably if they had thought that was going to happen.

You don't want to go there to the court.

You know when it's a tie, then the lower court decision stands.

Is this is this partly because the death penalty is on the table?

Right

... and, you know, wading through all of the documents and wading through the jury instructions, it's easy f- to be on the outside and be on TikTok and have opinions about this whole thing.

It's much different to sit there and listen to the whole thing and go through the legal standards.

Every state is different, um, Massachusetts.

A- and now with the introduction of possibility of this lesser included charge of manslaughter-

Is that true, then?

But I, well, I, yeah, I do think women are very hard on other women [laughs] just in life in general.

They definitely are.

Right

... of testimony and, you know, wading through all of the documents and wading through the jury instructions, it's easy f- to be on the outside and be on TikTok and have opinions about this whole thing.

It's much different to sit there and listen to the whole thing and go through the legal standards.

Every state is different, um, Massachusetts.

And, and now with the introduction of possibility, this lesser included charge of manslaughter.

Is that true then?

But I, well, I, yeah, I do think women are very hard on other women [laughs] just in life in general.

They definitely are.

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Are you worried about some of these institutions dying on the vine?

Well, listen, when you poll a lot of this stuff, the African American people do think some of this is crazy.

Even if the...

Plenty of Democrats and people say we can't just go blowing up the, the Senate and the Supreme Court and all these things.

They sound so crazy.

But everything that's kind of sounded crazy at some point didn't sound, you know, crazy [laughs] after you say it enough times and it becomes part of the mainstream conversation.

But there is a segment of, um, the far left progressives who w- they don't hide from it.

Who's advising him?

Just real quick, what's happening inside the Mangione trial?

Uh, we're getting notes from our producer inside, uh, that the judge is talking through this with Luigi Mangione, making sure he's sworn in now.

Apparently, there's indication he will plead guilty to counts one and two.

Uh, the judge has said, uh, the defendant is fully competent to plead guilty at this time.

Mangione says, quote, "I have," when asked if he read the indictment.

He's satisfied with his representation.

And these are all things the judge is going to ask him 'cause he wants to make sure you fully understand that you have these other rights to a jury trial, these other things, and yet you're saying, "I'm gonna plead guilty," and apparently, that's what's happening.

What's your takeaway from that interview, the follow-up?

So is this, is it important to kind of get those voters, you know, in your corner if you're somebody like AOC or you, or you're trying to push away the DSA?

Well, and that's a thing Democrats have to figure out, because if you're gonna say, "We need a, a big tent," and this is something I asked Juan Williams about a couple weeks ago on Fox News Sunday, and he said, "Oh yeah, there's room for them in our tent." But then when I said to him, like, abolishing the borders and the presidency and all this kind of stuff, um- He's kind of signaled, like, "We're willing to put up with some of that chatter if it will help us win, 'cause we have to win," meaning the Democrats.

He was saying, "We have to win with whatever means necessary.

If we put this tent together, this coalition, we need people." Now, it's not like DSA voters are gonna run over to Republicans if the Democrats say, "You don't have a place in our tent." Like, that's, that's not gonna happen.

They're gonna go where they think they have the most, most chance of success.

But it's raising all these questions about whether DSA wants to implode Democrats from the inside.

Like, we're gonna use your shell, your network, your ground game, whatever it is that you have, for us to get our candidates up to this next perch to a party nomination, to get them onto the ticket, 'cause they're really...

What are we seeing in the way of reaction to this?

How do you read it?

Yeah, I mean, there are a number of commentators who say as long as Fauci can point to what happened the hours after he testified, where the Florida attorney general says, "Oh, we have things to go after with respect to Anthony Fauci," um, he's gonna be able to, to look around and say and point to the court and say, "Well, I can't testify because there's this potential other criminal matter that's out there.

And so I'm not gonna be covered by this federal pardon for a state issue.

And so, you know, the Fifth Amendment applies against either state or federal things that are pending against you." So, you know, that may be one of his best arguments.

But the fact that he was sitting there before Congress and they're asking him about things that were during the period covered by the pardon and he was refusing to answer...

Listen, if I was his attorney, I would've told him, "Take the Fifth." I mean, just keep yourself protected, knowing probably that this legal battle was coming.

But remember, the Democrats set precedent here.

Where do you see this going?

Mm-hmm

...

they have a real life check that for them it doesn't feel like life is affordable.

And the polling numbers out there show that people are very worried about their own economic prospects.

And it's the same thing that the Biden administration ran into, where, listen, we had 40-year high inflation.

When you're talking about things in 9% range, where we're at now, you know, is incredibly improved from that.

But a lot of people still aren't feeling it in their personal pocketbooks and wallets.

Mm-hmm

Are some of these candidates making sure they distance themselves from the label even if they're, like, adjacent to it?

Well, and that to me is interesting because there's this whole conversation about does DSA belong within the Democratic Party or are they, should they be an offshoot and be their own party? You've got the, you know, Congressman Jared Moskowitz out there and others saying, "This is not consistent with our party policies." You saw former DNC chair Jaime Harrison saying back when this sweep happened in New York with the Mam- Mamdani-backed very progressive candidates saying, "Listen, if you don't like what the Democrat Party stands for, don't use our infrastructure.

Don't use our volunteers.

Don't use our platform." But, you know, when you ask people within DSA, they're like, "Listen, it's a two-party system.

We, we can't run on the Republican ballots.

That's not a match at all." And so they fully justify that, yeah, we don't agree with a lot of what Democrats are doing, um, but it's a party that's closer to us.

At least we have a chance to get in the primaries and get some of our candidates elected.

... referred over to the DOJ for criminal prosecution, that the pardon he got from President Biden means he should've, he should've had to have answered some questions?

Are Republicans noting that?

Yeah, they do, and when you talk to the Speaker and other folks, you know, on and off camera, they'll tell you the same thing.

Um, Republicans feel like it's gonna come down to maybe 19 to 30 different House districts for control of the House.

They're very targeted, and every district, you know, is so unique.

They feel good about that, and Republicans have quite a war chest.

If money's gonna make a difference, and it may not, because as we said, the polling shows us people are very concerned about the economy and their own personal economic situation and their families.

But if money can make a difference, the Republicans are feeling good on that front.

What do you know about this, Shannon?

Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Bream is the host of the Live in the Bream podcast.

Because what Thune keeps saying to the president is, listen, I want to help you.

I just don't have the numbers.

I don't have the votes for you, which the president presses.

Let's get rid of the filibuster.

Also not the votes for that.

So the problem it feels like in some ways is what the House has passed with the SAVE Act was voter ID, which we know all the polling shows that most Americans think that is a great idea.

I mean, how important is that if the Save America Act is saying, look, we actually think you need to use this very system to verify your citizens?