Shang Olsen
Shang Jul Rasul Olsen is a Danish clinical psychologist, certified Level II Metacognitive Therapy (MCT) therapist, and founder of Metacognitive Therapy Central.
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Aug 25, 2026
Carol CleggHOST
And I'd love for you just to walk us through that, just so that people can understand that separation.
Shang OlsenGUEST
So, so as Michelle mentioned, worrying consists of this internal conversation where we ask a lot of what-if questions.
Shang OlsenGUEST
We imagine things going wrong, problems happening, all that stuff, and then we try to answer those questions.
Shang OlsenGUEST
The consequence of worrying is that we just feel more anxious, we feel more stressed, we become more overwhelmed, and it's more difficult to take action.
Shang OlsenGUEST
Problem-solving is very clear because when we ask the question, "What is the problem?" It usually appears in front of us.
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Carol CleggHOST
So I'd love for you just to share a little bit more about what that actually is and, and how that works.