When you started to grow and have more people relied on you, how did the sort of pressure, not necessarily professionally, but also personally changed for you? And

we've had loads of challenges over the years.

And again, the thing is with nutrition, I'm quite happy to jump and talk about nutrition.

With the business side, I think I've got some experiences that I can talk about that can help people, definitely.

But I can't sit here and say I'm not like a multi-millionaire guru or something.

And then even then, there's billionaires.

So it's like, well, why are they talking? They should be talking about it.

for yourself and for the business objective so we tune in in 12 months time what what's the next chapter