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No, I, I do, do know why I said yes to Clover from like a, a, uh, like philosophical standpoint.

The why, the reason why I was hesitant there is just 'cause I'm doing so much, so obviously AJ listed all that stuff, and he ob- he left out a few things.

So I'm president of Vermont Premier League and co-founder with it f- and then, which is probably now it's the top level of youth soccer for Vermont, and then I'm also the president of the VSCA, which is the High School Coaches Association.

So, um, with that stuff, m- uh, you know, and then obviously Queen City, and then being the head coach at Seaview, I've had a lot I've taken on, so that's why I said [laughs] I don't know why I took it on.

But from a philosophical standpoint, I believe a lot in it, um, because pretty much a lot of the stuff I do, um, uh, you know, especially with the start of Queen City is like underdog story type stuff.

So like, um, you know, uh, even being one of the largest clubs in Vermont, I still consider Queen City as an underdog, uh, in a sense where, you know, we, we try to do the right things, but, um, you know, we might not be everybody's first thought about, you know, the top premier club in Vermont.

Um, what, what was kind of your original vision for, for starting that?