By way of an introduction, can you describe for us the process, the how and the why of what drew you as a Palestinian Christian scholar and activist from Nazareth to a comparative study of Indigenous spiritualities in Vancouver? Can you share with us a bit about what continues to motivate you day in and day out to continue to speak boldly on behalf of your community?

Thank you for having me.

And before I begin, I also just wanna r- uh, acknowledge that I'm, uh, speaking to you from the unceded and traditional territories of the Musqueam or Coast Salish people here, what is known as Vancouver.

A-and I think, you know, even just to do the land acknowledgement as a Palestinian who's displaced, who is currently experienced the height of settler colonialism there, I am here.

And one of the things that are e-essential and crucial in being in a-another's stolen land is to look at that relationship and what does it mean to advocate for Palestinian liberation in another settler colonial context.

And my way of just kind of bringing in these tensions and these dynamics, I think part of what drew me to engage with Indigenous ways of being and ways of knowing, I think part of it is coming from Israel-Palestine and working in peace building, especially within the church context.

I think I've been disillusioned in so many levels of what are the root causes that are at hand in historic Palestine, that we're seeing the heights of them right now in terms of the genocide or the current Iran, Israel, and US war.

What lessons can Palestinians or the Palestinian solidarity movement as a whole learn from the wisdom of other indigenous communities?