I mean, how deeply were you into it?

Uh, you know, I wasn't, you know, uh, drinking blood or nothing crazy like that.

I wasn't doing any major rituals, but I was, um, reading, you know, I read a ton, a ton of books, um, reincarnation based astral travel, channeling, uh, remote viewing, all the psychic stuff.

Um, and tons of tons more stuff in the new age Gnostic field, excuse me, but, uh, but um i ended up doing out-of-body travel and meditating i meditated like every day for years and i was trying to go out of body and eventually i got decent at it i didn't have some of the crazy goofy stories we might cover today but um in like deeper realms but i did a lot of the real time zone quote unquote travel which is where you travel around the real world uh and i found out that was simulation because it there was no other way to explain yeah i'll give you an example There's quite a few stories I have of these.

One funny one I bring up in my book is I was trying to prove to my roommate who knew I was doing all this and didn't believe in it.

I was trying to prove to him I wasn't an insane person, which I was coming off as quite often.

And so I was like, one of these days, I'm going to jump out of my body and I'm going to haunt you like a ghost, okay? And you'll feel me and it'll be chill.

What's the

I mean, how deeply were you into it?

Uh, you know, I wasn't, you know, uh, drinking blood or nothing crazy like that.

I wasn't doing any major rituals, but I was, um, reading, you know, I read a ton, a ton of books, um, reincarnation based astral travel, channeling, uh, remote viewing, all the psychic stuff.

Um, and tons of tons more stuff in the new age Gnostic field, excuse me, but, uh, but um i ended up doing out-of-body travel and meditating i meditated like every day for years and i was trying to go out of body and eventually i got decent at it i didn't have some of the crazy goofy stories we might cover today but um in like deeper realms but i did a lot of the real time zone quote unquote travel which is where you travel around the real world uh and i found out that was simulation because it there was no other way to explain yeah i'll give you an example There's quite a few stories I have of these.

One funny one I bring up in my book is I was trying to prove to my roommate who knew I was doing all this and didn't believe in it.

I was trying to prove to him I wasn't an insane person, which I was coming off as quite often.

And so I was like, one of these days, I'm going to jump out of my body and I'm going to haunt you like a ghost, okay? And you'll feel me and it'll be chill.

What's the

So what you got for us today, brother?

Uh, yeah, man, I, I basically, you know, all of my presentation material and everything in my book is set up in a certain order for a reason.

So if you're new to me and you don't know my whole work, I'll summarize it.

And I recommend you don't, uh, get too deep into it until you've watched part one and two on his page, or, you know, go to my page and I have plenty of presentations laid out of, uh, all my, you know, strongest material and they're in order for a reason.

And today's a reincarnation debunk, but, uh, I do have to summarize, uh, some of the core established foundation from parts one and two because they do lay the groundwork for what we're discussing today and that continues in future presentations for the most part um because i have quite a few more now uh as far as my OG important main work in part one.

That is where I basically do a deep breakdown covering astral realm, astral travel lore with the projectors that some people are well aware of, some people are not.

But they claim to traverse the astral realm and hang out with higher selves, ascended masters, spirit guides, etc.

you're also attacking like attacking her whole thing

Thank you.

Perfect segue, yeah.

Okay, so this is a, this is a pretty interesting one, and it's not in my book.

Well, the fir- some of it's in the book, but not the newer part.

But this is-- What I'm gonna explain here is gonna be slightly convoluted, I'm sure.

But I'm, I'm laying out the fact that I'm gonna go over some channeled sources, some of the popular ones that people in the New Age look to quite aggressively, and show what they say about certain topics.

And then I'm gonna show a remote viewer who read one of these books and his, uh, testing remote viewing these channeled entities' stories.

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Yes

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it is, uh, it is basically an 80 or so page rendition doing a deep, deep breakdown on like, uh, four books, and then a little bit of extra books too.

But mostly it's Robert Monroe's trilogy of astral travel books, which are the most influential, most bought astral travel books of all time.

And he has the Monroe Institute he started, which is basically a psychic Harry Potter wizard school, uh, that trains psychics and it's, you know, got some shady alleged connections to MKUltra programs, whatever, who cares.

Uh, and yeah, there's, uh...

He started that, and then it's...

Yes, it is.

Yeah,

that makes sense.

Yeah, man.

So some of your followers probably know me because we're on the same channels and we have the same cool group of friends.

And actually, it's funny that well, I'll get into that in a minute.

But yeah, my whole thing is my whole brand that I'm establishing here is with my.

theories about the astral realm and this thing expands quite deeply beyond just the astral it's everything psychic information derived but uh i'll get into the summary i suppose basically i believe that the astral realm um that people go out of body to is entirely demonic simulation unless it's god pulling you out that's the only time i believe it's real uh but it could be still controlled visions not necessarily displacement and location changing Um, but which wouldn't necessarily be deceptive because he's, it depends on the situation, but, um, demons, uh, I believe have this ability to a deep, deep, deep.

they're trying to bring it all together i think singularity to prove your point also is you know the merging of man with machine and not sentient ai necessarily it's more of man getting merged with this demonic vessel that you're talking about and like you said you know they want to mimic the omnipresence of god and to do that you have to be able to count the numbers on your head you have to know everything about you right because that's what he claims to do and so that's what they're attempting

Like something's wrong here.

That's a great question.

I have a couple stories because I didn't figure out immediately.

I didn't want to let go of the power.

You know, I was having fun with it.

But I have a couple examples.

Let's see.

interviewed her before yep

Mm-hmm.

So he is, Curt Leland is in the astral and his, his guides that he's had for years want to put him through this escape room, an astral escape room, um, more metaphorically than literally it seems but, uh, they tell him to find out a way to escape and they put him in this, what he describes as 1600s Italy type room, but like he's in a castle and it's very, you know, high society castle decor and stuff and he says, "I looked down at the drawing table where I found a complex perspective study s- study of a cathedral drawn in ink on a piece of parchment.

The sketch was in the style of the Renaissance.

Could this be a past life, one in which I'd been an arc- artist or an architectural draftsman?" So one, uh, he's put into a simulation, is told he's being put into a simulation and still asks the question to himself, is this a past life memory where he has autonomy which makes no s- sense 'cause you don't have autonomy in a past life memory.

So that's how real this is feeling, just keep in mind and his m- his thoughts, all the thoughts he has I think are being guided pretty heavily but you'll, you'll catch more of that.

Um, so then he says, "As instructed I looked for clues.

A quick scan showed me that there was no door.

Yeah.

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[laughs]... y- that 70th week or that seven-year tribulation period is for the Jews, and the Jews somehow miraculously all come to Christ in that seven-year period after one, after two-thirds of them get slaughtered.

That kind of sucks.

Why God'd have to do that? He could just save them right off the bat.

Then that there's going to be a literal antichrist figure who arises, um, and that then there's going to be a war against Christians, and then Christ returns and establishes that millennial reign.

That's kind of the main tenants of dispensationalism.

Homie, did I miss anything?

Oh, okay

Yeah.

Now, it's a little bit different than the regular, normal deliverance that you see in these, uh, other Christian circles because it's like more direct open channeling, believing what the spirits say, getting minds eye visions the whole time, which are controlled visions.

That's kind of my whole thing that I talk about, um, which are validating the experience and then strategic relieving of pressure at the end of it, which I think there's a mixture of things happening here where, one, yes, there's strategic pressure being relieved, um, by the demons to make you believe the channeled information they're bringing to you, which is validated by the visions, et cetera, uh, happening consistently with these New Age practices, not using the name of Jesus.

Okay.

And what I said was, I, I proposed an idea, which is, you kind of touched on it a moment a- ago there.

The idea is, is there something that is achieved, maybe biologically, where the functions of the body that would be typically geared towards digestion and the process of the food and things of that nature and, and eating and all of that are now freed up, therefore there's more energy, there's more resources that the body could use, and there's a quietness within the body because you're not, you know, doing all this, there's all this external input in the form of food.

Is there something that happens where you can perceive or tune in with the spiritual realm more readily? But what we just touched on there, I think is the heart of it.

It is a proclamation.

Then why does it need like human sacrifice?

Yeah, why do they summon all these entities and no one tries to summon Yahweh? That's crazy.

I've never heard anybody try to do that.

It's just funny.

Anyway, so there's more evidence.

The simulation stuff is talked about directly by Kurt Leland here, and in his book, he's describing being put into an astral escape room, they call it, and they're trying to, like, you've got to figure out how to get out of here, and it's not going to end until you figure it out.

Now, they kind of cut it short because he never does, but I don't want to spoil too much, but he says he's transported to instant consciousness shift, which is a common theme you'll see here soon.

So why don't we read this? Yeah, man.

You go on 1.5. Go for it.

Yeah.

It's a lot of material here, and I don't know if y'all want to go all day with me, but if we need to rush in any parts, just let me know.

But I like to be thorough here.

I usually spend the first half of this presentation focused on the New Age stuff, and then I do the Dan Duvall in the second half.

um because it makes way more sense when i do it that way uh just trust me there and so it's a lot of it's it's a bit of material it's not reading as much excerpts as before but i will read quite a few later um just so people know i'm not making stuff up but yeah i'll just rant for a bit and get into uh i guess the short version i guess quick thousand foot because i didn't cover it all but um these controlled visions are what's validating the experience and these i apparent healings that these people are having.

And they are having some crazy healings to mental, spiritual, physical things.

end?

Well, back up some of your claims for us.

Yeah, man, I got, I gotta do it.

I-- and I'm letting people know now, we're not gonna get to nearly all of it today.

In my presentations, I only cover, like, a third of what's in the book, uh, of the astral chapter, let alone all the other chapters.

And, uh, I am, uh, only gonna get to a few today.

So if you wanna see the rest, look at my YouTube page and I link long three-hour interviews where I cover more of it.

But, um, yeah, so I like to start out just by saying I'm gonna be reading excerpts from Robert Monroe's, uh, trilogy of astral travel books.

Go ahead

But anyways, why don't you just go into, um, just, just start us off wherever you wanna go.

Yeah, man.

I'll just real quick do my second theory, uh, and, and do a little bit of roasting of a, of a certain character out there that we should be doing that to, and then I'll get into the lore pretty heavy, and it's gonna be, it's gonna get crazy.

But my second theory is covered in part two material, which is also in my book obviously.

It's, talks about spirit releasement therapy, which is a s- sort of underground holistic healing method, which is basically New Age exorcisms where you're channeling the spirit that you're exercising.

But these spirits cast themselves as all different characters.

You have mostly ghosts, um, you have, uh, soul fragments of yourself that you need to reintegrate and you have to ask 'em to.

Yeah, let's go for it

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Yeah, right.

[laughs] Uh, yeah.

So there's this other book that is very underground, I do not hear talked about ever.

The only person I've heard reference it is J- Jason Georgiani, one of my many arch nemesis- sis-es, and, uh, he is, uh-- He brought it up in a space one time, and he doesn't name it, but he's-- it is the only book of its kind.

There's no other book like this that I can find.

Uh, so I know he was talking about this book and he uses it as data for real future prophetic information, uh, not seeing that it's a controlled deception but, you know, we'll get into this.

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Oh, boy.

Well, you're going to love this.

Okay, so to metaphysically trap them, which, by the way, keep in mind, this is a vision that the patient is seeing in their minds.

They're seeing all this take place.

They're seeing light beings show up.

You have to call light beings and command them, metaphysically activate them by commanding them.

We didn't know he was interfering.

Uh, but I guess just starting off, easing in toes into the water to test it here, I guess, uh, how did you stumble upon, you know, this subject? What made you want to write a book about this?

Well, I was, um, brainwashed and retarded for many years, Doc, and I was definitely getting into the...

I had this out-of-body experience in between the sleep state, which was very validating that I had a soul, which for a long time I denied when I was raised Christian, and then went to be an agnostic atheist, kinda angry at the world, kinda dummy for a couple years in my youth.

And, uh, after my early 20s, like, I think 21 or 22, I had this out-of-body thing that was very short-lived, but I could see myself, and I was floating, and it felt so real, and I was like, "Oh, shoot, I d- I guess I, I'm, I guess I was wrong about a lot of things.

I should probably figure this out." So I dive into pursuing it, uh, astral travel, and I was, like, reading the Monroe trilogy, Curt Leland's Otherwhere, uh, these other sources, Emanuel Swedenborg's, and these are all things I'm gonna be talking about today.

And, um, I got really into it, and I wasn't going deep into realms dealing with God so much as I was floating around the what they call "real time zone," quote-unquote, which is just the real world overlay.

Like, you're a ghost floating around to different buildings, and I was doing a lot of that.

So it's just a good imagination? [laughs]

Don't worry.

it's crazy no it's they have to expand it because you know as the aliens start becoming more and more well known and prominent as they pretty much are now you have to have a matching expansive cosmology to explain their existence and existence of many factions because if you have just one it's going to be too easy to tell oh they're not good guys so they have to make it seem like there's all these factions and all these expansive things to you know make us feel less special as well because if the bible's true and you take it very literally we're the only planet with life in the universe And I believe that a hundred percent.

I'm a young earther and I have science to back that up plenty.

And also, you know, the, the entire coding of our history is in a 7,000 year days, days, a thousand years principle, which look that up.

If you're not into it, it's, it's, it explains the younger cycle and the days of creation aligning thematically symbolically with it.

It's very beautiful.

And, uh, we're, we're coming up on year 7,000, like right now in this next few years.

adventure.

No.

okay well it's pretty underground and it was kind of big in small pockets of areas in the in the 90s and 2000s and i don't hear anybody talk about it it bothers me because if you dive into that lore it has a lot of reverse engineered answers you can get from the deception there but essentially it's this New Age spiritualist version of exorcism, but you're channeling and you're doing it intentionally.

So the practitioner will tell your patient, hey, make sure when we go into the session, you let yourself be open to any entity take over you.

They tell them to consent in advance, which is required, to channel an entity.

And they're finding out attachments, which are 80% of the time they say ghosts, like earthbound spirits.

And demons would never pretend to be a ghost, by the way.

Um, and then about 10% of the time they're demonic, but they're non-biblical demons and they call themselves dark force entities.

and