How do you actively manage those sorts of disagreements? What advice would you give to other founders who might find themselves in similar predicaments?

That's what I mean.

And honestly, as we've gotten busier this last year, that's been a big kind of challenge for us.

But it's really... approaching it with an open mind.

Okay.

And just listening to the other person, just being, it's really being over-minded, and neither of our opinions is exactly right all the time, but it has, we've never used validity to any kind of thinking or feeling, and it's really approaching it with an open mind, I think, is the biggest thing for us.

But yeah, it has been a challenge as things have gotten busier.

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