politics at that time

no i don't think so no i mean maybe he was low-key but yeah not present as he is now but anyways that's how i started after high school got into that then i got into selling insurance and so i worked at the old northwestern mutual for a while and I did that, and it worked out really well for a long time.

And then basically one day, they just came up to us and said, hey, your commissions are going to decrease.

You're going to have to pay a ton in office expenses.

And it was an office like this, eight guys in a little room like this, and the room we're in right now.

And they were charging us a ton of money.

We were like, this doesn't make sense.

worked your way into doing transactions what were you expecting in the way of compensation versus what the actual was after