I like, I want to be her, not because of the kind of objectification of it, but because she was a woman who, doing like stunts and like amazing climbing and puzzle solving that wasn't interested in boys or anything like that at all? I saw you nodding, Serena.

Oh, I was actually going to interject and say something I feel a hill I'll die on is Miss Pac-Man.

Ms. Pacman in 1982.

You know, she wasn't married.

She wasn't Mrs. Pacman.

And there's a great line in The Simpsons where they say, you know, the year was 1982.

Ms. Pacman struck a blow for women's rights because she was like it was it was just her.

Maybe, but in that case, just like, look, you can't relate to this character, but, you know, you could goon over her, you know?