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That's true.

That is very true.

So you've actually already kind of introduced our topic today, which is this idea of speech and ABA.

And, you know, historically, I think, to your point, there's been kind of a push and pull with our two fields, and a lot of BCBAs are not speech therapists, and a lot of speech therapists are not BCBAs.

And I think sometimes there is a, uh, misunderstanding or misalignment of kind of how these two fields can collaborate and work together.

So can we start off by talking a little bit about kind of the similarities and, and how these two fields do actually align in a way that works really well for our clients?

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