mean you've stuck it out i mean as far as i know you've like followed the knicks pretty closely even in their awful years

yeah the whole time it was a little bit harder when i was uh in the bay area with the warriors pulling me to watch them but pretty much stuck with the knicks the whole time i mean growing up it was just exciting to have the knicks and to have ewing even though it was painful the losses and those types of things like it was too young to really contextualize like the Miss Tippin and those types of things of like how painful that was.

Then when we were in middle school-ish, there was sort of like the peak Knicks of, the first version of the peak Knicks.

Houston, Sprewell.

Larry Johnson, four point play, Houston, Sprewell.

That's probably when I became like a real diehard Knicks fan.

And then it was 20 years of low.

Three weeks before the punishment broke, meaning, like, obviously, we knew that this was, like, an investigation, but...