that was a really long question, but it's a complicated subject, isn't it?

Yeah, there's a lot to unpack there, for sure.

I think any vegan you speak to will probably have an emotional and very sort of front of brain reaction to that saying, yes, I have felt othered and left outside or bullied for my veganism.

But if we are honest with ourselves, if we unpack it a little further, it is quite a superficial form of discrimination.

That doesn't mean that can't cause harm or discomfort, but I can only speak from my reality as somebody who, I suppose, if you want to talk about my different levels of oppression or, you know, to use the term infecting forms of discrimination that I've lived through.

I was very poor when I was growing up.

And I lived in a tent for a while when I was a child.

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