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Sean Nikkel

Sean Nikkel

Jul 31, 2026

22:38
Was there anything within those findings, Sean, that really surprised you, made you take a step back that, that maybe you weren't anticipating or you didn't anticipate seeing at that level that, uh, the findings showed?
22:48
Yeah.
22:49
So one of the, one of the big ones that, um, we kind of...
22:52
I participated in a little bit and then also got a chance to sort of look into our own like enclave of, of MDR data.
22:59
But, um, the kind of rising trend around living off the land and as I, as I call it now, living off the shelf, um, you know, it's one of those things where kind of, uh, in practice, you know, it's like, man, we're getting through a lot of customer incidents, and we've been noticing like a lot less malware being used, you know.
23:18
And so it was kind of one of those things that looking at the, the big research we did, you know, it was like, you know, about a three quarters of a million endpoints that they were able to do telemetry on and, and actually see that like, you know, over 80% of the attacks were using living off the land techniques.
23:34
And so, you know, it got me thinking, okay, how much of that were we seeing in our little enclave? 'Cause, you know, we get to see the incidents cradle to grave and, and so being able to see from that initial, you know, thing to the time we shut them down and kicked them out, we have all that telemetry.
26:49
What is, what is your take right now in terms of how the, uh, the bad guys are using it and how the good guys maybe should be using artificial intelligence a little bit more?

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