Mm.

Um, no.

No, we're desperate.

Uh, absolutely desperate to try and get a result.

I cannot believe, fellas, so, um, Stan Sport and the Nine Network picked up the, uh, rights, the broadcast rights here in Australia back in 2021 when I started calling with them, and, uh, I've never called a game where the Wallabies have beaten the All Blacks.

Yep.

I love the gold of the Wallabies.

The problem is, is they're so adept at building momentum, and building awareness, and building a, and, and furthering the love across the country.

Mm.

Um, no.

No, we're desperate.

Uh, absolutely desperate to try and get a result.

I cannot believe, fellas, so, um, Stan Sport and the Nine Network picked up the, uh, rights, the broadcast rights here in Australia back in 2021 when I started calling with them, and, uh, I've never called a game where the Wallabies have beaten the All Blacks.

Yep.

I love the gold of the Wallabies.

The problem is, is they're so adept at building momentum, and building awareness, and building a, and, and furthering the love across the country.

He

was a wallaby before he was a rooster.

I tell you what, sadly, we won't get him.

He's such a legend.

Honestly, guys, he's one of the true nice blokes in sport that I've ever met.

He's so grounded, such a good kid.

But we won't get him until next year.

So do you think you'll get us in Sydney?

If Australia are going to win there, Sean, and keep alive their hopes of getting the Bledisloe back, what are one or two things they absolutely have to get right?

You'll hear often in commentary from my learned long-time colleague, Tim Horne, always banging on about the all-black's ability to hit you before halftime and after, and he says it, and he says, well, we just have to be aware of it, and then more often than not, That's what happens and the game's gone.

So, mate, I reckon if we can be in the fight before halftime and then turn away whatever threats are coming in their direction from the All Blacks and then maybe just hold them out on the other side of the break, we can go deep into the contest.

And, Jesus, I mean...

I haven't had a look at the odds.

I don't know what the bookie said.

I don't know what the algorithm predicts.

Yeah,

Exactly.

And that's why I just went ...

I mean, those that have been on this crazy journey with us the last fi- ...

Let's go post-COVID.

On this crazy post-COVID journey when it comes to the Wallabies, we know the ups, the downs.

We know that Tom Wright had done it at Ellis Park.

So that's why, mate, I just, I just went, I just said, "Tom Wright, you legend," you know? And he runs away, that's the match-sealing.

Mm.

But what have you noticed that's

different? That's a good question.

I think, look, I was obviously a massive Joe Schmidt fan in his time with the Wallabies and with Dave Rennie as well.

And what those guys collectively brought to Aussie rugby was absolutely fantastic.

So Les has now been able to sort of build on that.

And he spoke about...

I hate using the word so much, but he spoke about the culture and sort of that togetherness now of the Wallabies in the post game the other night.

What was going on

I mean, time was our saviour, but my goodness,

four? Oh, no.

And I'll tell you what.

So I think what would have got most people frustrated watching online or watching on Stan was just the way that some of those cards came about.

So we had these moments where, like, as well, we thought you're in the clear and then the TMO would get involved.

And then we had the Tom Wright try taking off and then another guy goes off to the Aussies and the Harry Wilson one.

So there was all that confusion that went with it that created that additional drama.

They've got to get a bit of that out, don't they?

Where, what, what are our pluses and minuses after watching those four?

Geez, I'd be pretty happy with how things are traveling at the moment.

How can you not be? I mean, imagine how good you had to be to break down that South African defense at altitude, at Ellis Park, the skillsets that they delivered.

The fact they had to dig in for that massive scrum and turn them away.

The defense in and around that pivotal turning point in that first test.

But they, but just getting again back to the attack and the, and the way that they were able to construct stuff to dodge those, you know, those mountains of men, oh, it's ex- it was extraordinary.

And when you go back, if, mate, if we go back, there's probably one key moment across those four test matches.

So let's start first, what did you learn from playing Argentina about your team?

Mm-hmm.

That, you know, that, that comfort zone or defeatist attitude is exactly how we end up use, losing.

Uh, the threat is, when they put things out for public comment, by the Administrative Procedure Act, they actually look at these, and they're tasked with categorizing each and comment.

And numbers matter.

If we, if we're being outdone by the anti-gun groups, then they're gonna win.

And, uh, and, and actually that happened not too long, long ago on July 6th.

Just a few days ago, the ATF tried to fast-track a rule to cut red tape.

And it's a real s- it's like a dedicated newsfeed that you can just check every day or two and find out what's going on.

because it's not talked about enough that Canada's impact is underrated in that sense?

I think so.

It's not understood because it's subtle in some ways, but you never hear about the really interesting stuff.

So the Soviets have drift ice stations in the Arctic and they're spying on us, right? And they're using them to stage nuclear bombers and all sorts of things.

And we're flying Lancaster aircraft at like coming in off the deck, taking pictures of these things at extremely low level.

I find out later, reading Russian material, that you see the reports back going, these Canadians are crazy.

They're buzzing us again, taking pictures of Obama.

bragging when you're serving your country and putting your life on the line, or is it just proper recognition that we haven't...

Does this kind of accelerate the timeline on that?

I think the Supreme Court, there's been a lot of cases on AR-15s and magazines that had been filed, but they didn't accept them.

But they're waiting for the right case, a clean case to do that.

I want you to keep in mind now, the federal districts are split.

uh, California, of course, uh, magazine capacity, uh, isn't protected by the second amendment, but probably three or four other districts have ruled the exact opposite.

So the courts are in conflict.

They've stated in one just recently that magazines are protected by the second amendment and suppressors are protected by the second amendment.

have to be adjudicated

uh but so if you're like me for example i own guns i also use marijuana um what does a law-abiding ohio gun owner that like me medically recreationally whatever what are you in the clear at this point

uh yes you are in a clear at this point based on now it always takes federal law time to trickle down but this is going to happen quickly and you have to get one thing straight scott uh The Constitution and Bill of Rights don't grant us rights.

They don't give us permission to defend ourselves.

Rights are inherent, fundamental.

There are human rights.

The Bill of Rights exists.

for the sole purpose to act as a legal straitjacket, so to speak, on the federal government to keep her from encroaching on those same rights.

What's the difference?

How are you guys feeling about the way the Waratahs are at the moment?

So much to do.

Uh, so, so, so much to do there because they essentially seem to plug one gap, then another leaks, and then vice versa.

The erratic nature of their matches year in, year out, they're up, they're down, they have big win, bad win.

I mean, mate, some of the performances this year, and this is by their own admission, right, so I'm not, I'm not heaping on them a- as an outsider.

This is by their own admission.

They've been so far short of Super Rugby level, and that's their coach saying it too.

The, the, once, once again, the best performing lineout, um, certainly over the back half of the year, has been the Western Force, and they've been-

Hooper.

Those ones.

Hooper.

Like all those guys.

Bernard Foley.

Israel Palau.

0-0-0-0-0.

Who's going to go through? Yeah,

I don't think it's set in stone at all when it's playoff time.

Well, it's a Brumbies team that is loaded with wallabies who, as you guys know, have beaten each of the other New Zealand sides this year.

We'll just try and skip right over Super Ram.

They got it handed to them by the Hurricanes down in Christchurch.

That one don't count.

So they know how to get down against the other Kiwi sides.

And I think they can throw some real shots.

What do you make of their chances with their new stadium and everything at this time of year?

Mm-hmm.

And then, um, uh, a- as he was saying, "I just wanna get out of here," another person appeared from the front of the truck, uh, palmed him in the chest and knocked him against, uh, the tractor trailer.

So now there's three people against one.

And, um, gentleman had a service dog in his truck, and in this particular state, castle doctrine applied to the motor vehicle, uh, c- uh, like it does the home.

Uh, and, uh, one of the individuals came over to the truck when he got there, uh, put his arms in the truck, uh, made a com- made some comments.

And, uh, the member did nothing more than he had a 43X, um, in the, uh, uh, armrest, pulled it out, deholstered it, and it was over with.

Uh, individual popped the curb, went across the street to a gas station, immediately, uh, called 911.

Mm-hmm.

After winning four in a row, that was.

Yeah, crazy.

And the weird thing is, as well, Brett, as he highlights the fact that the points aren't coming easily for the Reds, but when they click, they are so lethal.

And when they string together their little set plays and their playbook starts to tick, then they look like absolute well-beaters.

So... it's that disconnect between me and them.

I make it run for a duration of a game.

They sort of dip in and out of matches as well.

I'm still stunned when I think about that result.

It's been way too bloody

long.

Bring it on back to me.

Yes.

Good song.

Good vintage of Brumbies.

I can't believe it's been 12 games straight winless at that venue.

Is that fair?

It's been way too bloody long.

Don't stop.

bring it on back to me yes uh good song good vintage of Brumbies I can't believe it's been 12 games straight uh winless at that venue that is just I mean it's insane really or in Christchurch rather so uh they'll have a good shot mate they were really the Brumbies were really impressive last week Charlie K was outstanding uh declan meredith's gone well at 10. you will have seen plenty of corey tool four packs rock sold so uh i've had a look at the weather and the weather's going to be good in christchurch as well so i reckon we might see a few points and i mean the losing streak's not in at some point doesn't the brumbies have finally got a don't they don't they they've got to get a win there at some point and maybe today's the day i've tipped them You're speaking to a man who lives in Wellington, mate.

It can get worse.

I can promise you that.

Okay.

Yeah.

Is that fair?

the craziest things you've seen

Yeah, it's up there.

I mean, obviously guys scrap at training and the rest of it, but just the aftermath was, the aftermath was right out of the box.

I don't see that coming at all.

And I've spoken to our colleague Ian Payton at length about all the aftermath as well.

And it's, it's, it's almost too crazy to be true really, but they've got through it.

And, and as you know, through your many years of covering the Brumbies and Canberra and You know how hard and edge Dan McKellar brings to any team of the coaches.

Absolutely get around