But can you just describe the kind of environment so people can get an idea of it?

Sure.

The traditional Foley stage we all think of is a reasonably sizable room.

It has a multitude of surfaces on the floor.

Four footsteps, but also, you know, if something gets dropped to the ground, if someone falls on the ground, you have to replicate that.

So, generally, there's a couple different types of wood surfaces that are built in place.

We call them pits.

Is that something you've come across before?

[laughs]

But, uh, here we are again.

No, I, um, I did enjoy it all.

I think, I don't, I don't think it was a very rough breakup.

I feel like I've had much rougher relationships.

I think probably the roughest was during lockdown, um, as I'm sure some of you will resonate with.

But, uh, I'd say it wasn't all bad in lockdown, though, with her.

[laughs]