And so th- this starting with like an observation about yourself and using examples of individuals not knowing what to want, I think is, is pretty interesting.

Well, yeah, I think, I think that at the small scale, at the individual scale, frankly, what I, what I sort of advocated for in the last episode a few years ago when I was on works, which is you just turn down the identity to zero and run everyone else over, right? Like, just like d- uh, that, that, that as a strategy for a, like individual, at, at the individual level if you're sort of worth sacrificing your, yourself, is probably the winner most of the time.

But like as I, I, I started to in the last few years, I started to see that as an antisocial belief that I didn't feel right advocating to others.

And, and, and like I guess here's why.

So like, most people don't have anything more valuable than their identity.

It is, it is the most valuable thing, right? 'Cause they don't have status and they don't have wealth.

Most, most people don't have status and don't have wealth, and everyone has identity.

Mm-hmm.