So can you give some examples of how you see that play out, whether you want to share something from your own experience or how you see it like in trends among students or in the larger culture? Yeah.

That's a great question also, because I see it as something that has layers to it.

It's not like a singular behavior or way of working with a spiritual practice.

It goes from what I would consider to be like grosser, more obvious ways of spiritual materialism playing out to more subtle.

So like probably similar to you, you know, some of the more grosser ways I think I've been able to work with and remedy, at least I have the illusion I have.

I'm not sure if I actually have.

But there's definitely subtler ones that are still present that I have to watch out for, right? And so we can start maybe with the grocer.

Yeah.