Where, where did it come from?

It came from limitations.

It was born out of constraints.

Uh, we had access to this beautiful Eng- English countryside house.

We had access to a helicopter, and we had access to these three great actors.

And the script just went through months and months and months of iterations and, a- and, um, bad ideas, good ideas, and everything that led to this idea and this theme sticking.

Um, so it was just a hodgepodge of so many months just, like, going back to the drawing board and trying things and, um, working within our limitations and constraints.

Uh, can you talk about that? Where is that line for these characters between care and control?

Or 2017 I think actually.

2017, yeah.

Good.

Um, yeah, we went to the same film school, and I think within months we just started working on each other's projects there, and it's kind of like history ever since.

So we, we, we, um, collaborated with our other friends Al and Joey.

Al was an EP on this, and then Joey wa- starred in it as Liam.

And then, um, Haley as well went to our film school who EP'd this.

Where did the idea for Littermates come from?

Was that developmental progression and the difference between the two of them something you mapped out when you were writing them?

It...

Yes.

I think that also the Mel and Liam difference is I think boys growing up, we just naturally are focused on stupid shit more than girls.

I think girls, they progress mentally just maybe quicker and they mature a little bit faster and are more curious about the world.

Whereas boys, I think we're where as kids were programmed to be very primal and like getting distracted by, you know, like, like the sexual side of life and everything.

It's like, that's more interesting than anything else that could be happening in the world.

How did you decide how much the audience actually needed to know about the outside world?