What does the pipeline look like or what is the state of the pipeline from your perspective?

Yeah, I think you asked about six questions in there.

But yes, there's been a lot said about the pipeline.

Okay.

I would say some of it's true and some of it's probably more missed than that perspective.

From an NC State perspective, our numbers have never gone down.

And I think that what attributes to that is the fact that I like to say we made the pond bigger that we were fishing from.

So what are those conversations kind of look like at the academic level?