man all right um well listen man everybody scott ron uh amazing guy founding partner of rmo llp out of la and um love to get a little just for audience like tell it to give a little bit of your background like how you came to be

Yikes, it's a long story, like most of the good ones.

I grew up farming in rural Wisconsin, meandered my way into college, stumbled perhaps, I might say, after working nights in construction and factories and all those kinds of things, but found my path back to law, which is I wanted to be a lawyer since I was in the fifth grade.

So found my way to law and found my way to Southern California, but by hook or crook through a friend who had been a Marine out here at Pendleton and gave me an opportunity to move to SoCal and Went to law school here and made friends with someone who offered me my first job, me on the path to doing what we do today, which is private wealth disputes.

So anything dealing with contested inheritances, financial elder abuse, et cetera.

And it was really that first firm and a mentor and partner at the firm who took a chance on me and brought me a case and said, you know, it's probate.

It's weird.

And I think lawyers that are interviewing and just off the cuff, not a great idea and not going to make things as predictable.

Correct.

Who wants to come in and say, man, is my family a mess? Let me tell you, you know, we've got mental health issues over here and we've got substance abuse issues over there.

And this person's got a gambling addiction and you know, this one's a spendthrift and you know, don't even get me started on that one.

And.

You know, so it's really difficult, you know, as a planner, you're trying to suss all these things out and the estate planning community, like I said earlier, super smart, dedicated to their clients, dedicated to their craft.

But if they're not getting a fulsome picture of what actually goes on at the Thanksgiving dinner table and who comes and who doesn't, it's really hard to structure a plan that addresses all those things.

Even if you know the vast majority of it, you're still you're at the whim and fancy of what someone may or may not do, right? And it's not always the person you anticipate.

you

And Scott, I think you're going to get us started here.

I am.

Thank you, Howard.

Thank you for having us.

Thank you, Al.

Looking forward to presenting here with you today.

I want to start with a fact pattern that will feel familiar to many of you.

But the new provision of 664.6 i believe allows legal authorization to dismiss it note a settlement agreement and then later on you come into issues of enforcement and that ties in directly with control over pieces of property but back to you scott

That would have

been better.

Until the legislature decides otherwise.

Right.

Pleasure to be here with you again, Nick.

I can't believe we've been doing this for 10 plus years.

Crazy.

The Court of Appeal did a nice explanation of why they can be useful.