So why do you walk for groceries? Why, why do you live this way?

Um, [laughs] many people have asked me that, John.

Um, I like to walk or sometimes bike, depending on the weather, just because it's so close and it's easy.

I mean, I'm only a few blocks away.

I'm right, I'm right across the bridge.

So I do think that generally there is a feeling where that if you, if you go on a bike, or you walk, or something versus using a car, you do just kind of feel better, and it's very weird feeling to use a car for something that's so close.

Um, so I try to do it whenever possible.

We cross over there?