And

before I'll answer that, I'll say you have had a liberal arts foundation that you've taken those other courses.

And specifically at Ithaca, all the students have to take at least half of their credits to graduate, have to have that liberal arts designation to them.

And pretty much that is Having a broad knowledge, courses that have broad knowledge, encourage critical thinking, you know, general academic inquiry, that sort of thing.

And, you know, beyond that, looking at, you know, you talked about, you know, you want, you know, you commented on telling students to focus and you're right.

I mean, you know, how many times have we talked to, you know, young people and they said, well, I think I want to do creative.

And it's like, well, you know, what does that mean to you? And then you got to give them the old, okay, there's like art direction, copywriting, graphic design, and, you know, even tangentially like production.

And then how do you have these conversations when it's, their senior year second semester they're applying for jobs and they show you a resume or a portfolio body of work and they go professor hamula how do i communicate this like what like what's my first step because i have all these ideas of these different roles i have this body of work here like how do you help them how do you what's like the first step in the coaching conversation there