But anyway, again, it's just a long way of saying, is there any hope for higher education to get them to do the kind of things that you rightly suggest in your op-ed?

Well, one of the things that I think President Trump has been really good at is at the beginning of his second term, he's shown a light on the corruption in higher education.

And I just hope he doesn't take his foot off the gas.

And, you know, his focus, as you know, was on the DEI programs and how those are being pushed so far.

They're violating civil rights laws.

And, you know, he's really taken that on hard.

But there's only so many attorneys in the DOJ and things like that.

My alma mater, Professor.

He, he's exactly correct, but explain the view of Clarence Thomas when it comes to the Declaration of Independence, how it app- how it applies today.

Sure, that's a great question.

And C- Clarence Thomas believes, and has for his entire judicial career, and he started giving speeches about the Declaration when he was chair of the EEOC in the early '80s, and so he believes that the Declaration articulates the moral and political, uh, principles of the United States, including equality, and that the Constitution exists to implement those principles.

And he was drawn to the Declaration, he has said many times over the years, because he wanted to understand why someone like his grandfather would be treated so poorly.

Um, and his grandfather stayed out of trouble, just worked hard.

And so Justice Thomas believes that the law, including the Constitution, is colorblind, and that equality under the Declaration means that e- everyone should be treated as an individual, not as a member of a particular racial, religious, gender, whatever group.

And that that, uh, idea is, uh, embodied in the phrase, "All men are created equal," and that was taken from, by Thomas Jefferson from John Locke's, uh, political philosophy, which is, if you're smarter than someone else and work harder than someone else, you should, uh, advance, uh, on the merits ahead of other people.

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