Give us the quick background and story on SASE and tell us how that led to co-founding Venus.

Yeah, you know, so it's one of those stories that when I look back, it makes sense, but I don't know that I ever set out in the beginning to do that.

I think the through line is taking engineering, complex engineering ideas, and then also people and like kind of merging the two.

So I started off biomedical engineering with a plan to go to medical school.

Obviously, I'm not a doctor.

And as I was talking to every doctor at the time, they said, don't do it.

You know, medical, the medical industry insurance is ruining it.

to how do I scale this thing, right? So what are some of the things that are going through your brain around post-funding to shift that mindset and the organization?