And what do you do when you've got someone who is quite arrogant, then, Sasha? Do you tell them to turn it down?

I certainly try.

I've said to a client, "Don't answer back.

Don't be cheeky.

Don't try and get the better of the prosecution barrister, because it's not a sparring match." And they listen and say, "Yes, yes, I understand," and the prosecutor stands up, and the gloves come off, and there's an immediate punch-up, and you just think, "What can I do?" For me, the only time I get nervous in court is when my client is in the witness box because you've not got control of the proceedings, and, uh, yeah.

What's your takeaway from the case?

I agree with Rose that these three were an example of something that was going on all over the country in this era, that women who had very little money, trying to struggle to make ends meet, committing minor offenses, were treated absolutely horrendously.

The vessel that transported the women to Australia was part of the criminal justice system, which would've had a duty of care to those on board the ship.