with Blue Origin, right?

Right, right, right, which looked like an atomic bomb going off.

Yeah, really good example of something exceptionally energetic and very capable of exploding.

Then you take a look at something like Gilmore Space, who I love.

It's based out of Australia.

They're doing orbital launch.

They're using a hybrid rocket engine.

And so one thing you didn't touch on, though, was Once you've actually created the safety mechanisms and what you need to do versus not need to do, and there is a significant difference there, what does it take to evaluate the data that comes out of a test so that you can then apply it to the next test and eventually the launch?

stool, right? Like,

you guys are both, you know, a little off.

So I think the reason why solid rocket motor people think liquids are wrong is because of the lack of simplicity.

Solid fuel rockets are, you know, think of your Estes amateur rocket.

You have your fuel and oxidizer mixed up into a dried, it's called a fuel grain, but core liquid.

And you just light it and it's just fireworks, right? It's simple.

It's easy.

What are the applications and market opportunities in front of you?

Did I hear you right?

Yes.

So I should just back up for one moment, just say that, you know, you know, I've always been, so my background is in early days, physics and electrical engineering.

And so there's always been this curiosity about how the universe works and then sort of the application of really the applications of physics, which is engineering.

And I've always wanted to find, you know, that sort of intersection between how technology can benefit humanity and the universe.

And the universe and the planet, sorry, I'm not that bold.

And You know, early days, you know, I started a company up in in ninety nine in renewable energy.

What is your superpower?

What was the primary outcome you were hoping for?

Yeah, so this test we've been preparing for for a long time, and we've been working, doing tons of modeling, tons of tweaks and changes to the internals of the engine.

We actually expanded the size of the engine, the combustion chamber a bit.

We made a lot of changes inside.

That cylinder looks very... vanilla you know it's just this round cylinder that is a hybrid rocket engine uh but we made a lot of changes in there things unfortunately I can't I can't talk about but um There was a whole lot of different changes made in there.

And the outcome we were expecting to see was one where we were looking to snuff out a certain type of instability or actually three types of instabilities and increase the efficiency of the burn further.

And that leads to what would happen.

Talk a little bit about directionally where BlueShift is going.