Mm-hmm.

Let's try that again.

That's a hard row to hoe a little bit because, uh, I just think it ta- it takes more wherewithal and more resilience and so forth, all those good things, to go from an ass- you know, a, a, to transfer.

It's like you, you gotta keep, you got, you know, it's two applications processes.

It's, it's not the traditional path.

You've gotta really be self-motivated.

So that, starting out, like, that little glimpse right there, I, I was, I was, I was liking it.

Mm-hmm