So I'm curious, what brought you to where you decided that creative women were your people and made you think that this was an area that you could be of service in?

When I graduated from university, which is a long time ago, I applied for many, many jobs.

And the first job that I got was for the region that I live in's art gallery and museum service.

So I was immediately immersed into that world, that sort of like cultural world.

And because the woman that was running the department at the time I was working in marketing and PR.

She wasn't that interested in the art gallery side of it.

She really liked the museum.

within a certain amount of time.