So you gave us some tangible tips, hydrating, movement, but how would you start retraining the actual bowel routine to create a habit? Because I do feel like some kids get so nervous about actually going onto the toilet.

Yeah, so it can definitely depend based on the scenario because there's so many different like kind of poop struggles buckets that I look at.

It could be a kiddo who only feels comfortable pooping in their diaper or pull up.

And for those, it can tend to be easier because maybe they're not constipated yet.

And that's a good thing, right? I'm like, yes, if they feel comfortable with that, let's do that and let's shape it up.

Or you have a kid that is like withholding for a week at a time.

And that obviously is creating the tension and all of that.

Like how do you teach them what the norm is for peeing so that they understand it in a kid friendly way?