What is wrong with the map that we've been using for centuries?

Well, to fully explain this, I'm going to have to give you a very quick lesson in map making.

So essentially, any global map, you're taking the planet, which is a sphere, except it's not quite a sphere, it's more kind of squashed and not very smooth, so kind of like a Mandarin, and you're attempting to represent it on a flat surface.

And there's simply no way that you can do that without distorting real life.

So you actually have a bunch of decisions to make about whether or not you're going to choose to preserve angles and areas or shapes and really I suppose the subjectivity comes into a map when you start making those decisions.

The map that we've been using for many centuries was put together by Mercator in 1569 and that was what's called a cylindrical projection which basically if we go back to the idea a mandarin if you've got to peel that mandarin and put it on a flat surface to turn it into a map how do you do that and a cylindrical projection basically if you take a piece of paper and wrap it around the mandarin it's going to be really accurate at any point where that paper is touching the mandarin and inaccurate elsewhere.

So the map that we've been looking at is reasonably accurate around the equator, but then it starts to sort of squish.

And, um,

She told stories of Darwin, Terry Hughes, and others, but this week, one of her heroes, David Stoddart, and the fate of the Aldabra Atoll, where the conflict between peaceful nature and the military was once again played out just a while ago.

David Stoddart, he was a very well-known coastal geographer and a maker of prolific maps.

He was an academic at the University of Cambridge in his early years, and then went on to Berkeley in San Francisco.

And he's a man who's made many maps of remote coastlines, so he's renowned for landing in quite isolated atolls or islands, having caught a ride there on a passing fishing boat or container ship, and madly doing fieldwork, making maps using his trade compass pace method, where he's got a, a hand compass and he's, uh, measuring angles with that, and then he'd calibrated his paces, pacing an island hurriedly throughout the day, and by the end of the day he'd have a, a rough map sketched up of the main features of the island.

And there have been many places I've worked where they're quite isolated, far-thrown places, and David has helpfully been through and written up a useful paper about the climatology, and within that paper would be a nice map of the place.

Now- It seems that Aldabra was saved by this very enormous cost that it was going to be, or w-was that an excuse that was used?

Yeah, to some extent maybe that was a comment about saving face.

Who knows? There was a Anglo-American base built in the Indian Ocean.

Yeah.

I think the first thing to think of is the fact that there are generational bridges on the pathway.

It's a giant pathway that winds around and every third of it, or if you're in the sixth generation, there are six different bridges, five bridges that you've crossed as a family group.

And to build your own roadmap about when did we expand our thinking to include the family foundation and the philanthropic impact we want to have.

When did we find it necessary to formalize our governance? At what point did the family council tackle the question, how much togetherness is the right amount of togetherness in our family? All of these, and in the last 20 years, we've had the The very tricky question, what are the roles for spouses and step families that have become a part of our family? And how does that evolve over time and through the generations? Constructing the enterprise house itself and naming it as an enterprise and We use a visual house with a roof and rooms in the house to define the key core elements of the family's enterprise.

And every room in the house has an overarching goal identified for that room in the house.

And that picture of a house can be understood by every 18 year old in the family.

But what are some of the typical risks that a family enterprise faces and what are some of the strategies to mitigate those risks?

So do you feel like if someone is hearing some of these signs and symptoms and kind of going, "Oh, that may be something," how important is it for them to seek out a diagnosis, and where do you even go for that?

that?Yeah, absolutely.

I think it's really important for exactly the reasons that you touched on.

The fact that it's validating, as you said, you recognize, we live in our bodies 24 hours a day.

We know when something isn't right.

We know when something is not how it should be, and it's kind of going, "Oh, actually I need to go and see someone about this," and that diagnosis leads to that kind of confirmation that you knew something was going on, and you need that.

In terms of how to get diagnosed and where to start, it's different in, I mean, we're a global organization, it's different in every country, which just is really good for [laughs] ...

Yeah.

He says, "Is this referendum on a referendum gonna satisfy anybody?" And I said, "That's the absolute most perfect question, Evan, that you could've asked to kickstart this conversation." Where's your head at, Sarah?

Um, so I don't think it's gonna satisfy anybody.

Um, I think the forever Canadian folks, uh, the people who don't want this question [laughs] in the first place, are totally satisfied with their place in Canada, are not gonna be happy with having to spend what's supposed to be a very nice summer door-knocking people to affirm their fealty to Canada.

Um, uh...

And that was a little tongue in cheek, but I'm, I'm mad about it and I'm sad, like so many people.

I think the people who have been driving this movement, the cowards who will not put their name on a ballot, who will not actually try and run an election based on this, those are the people who are now calling for a leadership review.

So in the midst of all of this, we could also have a leadership review i- on the books.

Yes.

So how did he do that? How did he pioneer the work?

Well, Hubert Wilkins in his time was well known as quite a fearless plane pilot.

So he got a reputation for flying planes in the Second World War as a photographer.

In fact, he'd fallen out of the sky and managed to survive.

And really he'd done a fair bit of flying up in the Arctic, but he was interested in conquering, if you like, the Antarctic.

And in particular, they had a big landscape scale question of the most accessible part of Antarctica is the Antarctic Peninsula, this pointy finger of land that sort of points upwards towards the downward pointing finger of land that is the South American continent.

They used to be joined a long time ago.

Very famous place in Columbia [laughs] University.