Maybe you have a different experience, but I'm curious if you can share with us, you know, how should we nonprofit leaders? Well, how should we be thinking about, I don't know, particularly cultivating and stewarding the relationships with donors who give back? through their DAF as opposed to the traditional contributions? What should we be thinking about? So I love this question

because when I first started learning about gender advised funds, they didn't make any sense to me.

And that's because for me, I know so many amazing organizations.

And if I suddenly had 20 grand to donate, I know exactly what I would do with it.

It didn't even make sense to me that you would want to put money aside and then over time make your grants or execute a strategy or build a strategy.

So what's really helpful when you're thinking about cultivating and supporting and working with donors that use a DAF is kind of put yourself in their shoes and understanding the motivations for why a donor uses a DAF in the first place.

So there are a lot of really good reasons to use a DAF.

So what should we be paying attention to right now?