that drive like? Why more? Why did you keep adding the hairdressers and adding this? Where did that come from?

Because I wanted to, what I found, even though I had those salons, they were very people heavy.

So one of the things I wanted, I think was, it was if I can scale this so that I don't have to be in it anymore completely, as in not do anything.

It never really worked out like that because what I was doing was training these people up and then they were going off and starting their own businesses because I taught them not just how to do nails, how to run it commercially so that it made more money.

So the next step for them, nine times out of 10, which is a bit like builders, isn't it? They go off or bricklayers go off and work for a contract for somebody else.

And that's what used to happen.

They'd go off and start their own salons.

And the bus, bam, comes and takes you out.