
Sara Westman
Founder of Kitfox Design Group, a firearms-industry technical illustrator known for high-detail PVC patches and litigation artwork cited in the 2024 Garland v. Cargill Supreme Court opinion.
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Sep 23, 2026
Gunday Brunch 259: Patches? We Don't Need No Stinking Patches
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3:08Caleb GiddingsHOST
But so as the as the patch thing was developing, you know, how did you end up on this journey to the Supreme Court? Like what happened? Did you just like get a random text from Alan Gottlieb one day?

Sara WestmanGUEST
And they were like, hey, do you want to teach the Supreme Court how triggers function? And I was like, what? They're like, basically, we need you to describe it in a way that your grandma can understand.

Sara WestmanGUEST
Oh, and at the time, it wasn't going to be anything substantial other than being put in front of the Supreme Court, which is still something that most people will never actually accomplish in their lives, which is crazy to contemplate.
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