But to start with, it would be interesting just to get a bit of a sort of grounding in what you've been studying and what sort of things you've been looking into just to get a sense of, you know, where we can go with this and what we can explore around this topic, basically.

Yes, so around three and a half years ago, I moved from teaching into teaching apologetics for OCCA, the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics.

But as I was doing that, increasingly we were finding that we were getting questions on contemporary wars and how we should respond.

So we might be giving a talk on suffering and all of a sudden, you know, that we're being asked to give specific opinions on contemporary wars.

So I think...

With that happening alongside my own interest in diplomacy, I did just take the plunge a year ago to start a two-year master's program here in London.

So I'm still speaking part-time in apologetics, but I'm studying here in London a war master's.

So how would you sort of compare those two?