It's probably way beyond that, but where did it come from?

Yeah, I mean, certainly we are building for government as a priority customer.

I mean, we are building for anyone who uses email or messaging for work, but we are particularly focused on organizations where we think we can make the biggest difference because they have complex communications environments or high stakes communications environments.

And so obviously that does lend itself to the sort of environments I've come out of, whether it's Government or critical infrastructure, big enterprise, but certainly we're building for anyone.

But interesting when I look, you know, hindsight is one of those beautiful things.

I look back over my career and I can certainly see the moments in my career in government, particularly when I was working in counterterrorism.

I coordinated Australia's whole of government counterterrorism architecture for a few years in prime minister and cabinet, working with the counterterrorism coordinator.

So talk to me about that.