I do think it is very important.

Um, I actually, it's always been my dream to train and I do honestly feel like I'm living the dream.

Um, obviously there's a lot of stress involved, um, particularly with money, I would say is quite a big stress of it all because there's not a lot of prize money.

Um, that's another thing completely, but you know, it's very hard to make it pay.

Um, you know, with the, with the price of everything going up, I would say that's sort of our biggest, um, worry um but in terms of the the training you know I do honestly feel like I'm living the dream the I love training horses thoroughbreds in particular you know I've always had a passion for them um I love sort of um retraining them when they finish a lot of trainers struggle you know with finding homes but I actually really enjoy doing that side of things as well thankfully you know we've only got a small team so we do have the time to do that as well and a lot of trainers struggle with staff but I think kind of where we are we're sort of a bit we're just out of Malton towards Scarborough and we've got a couple of really good girls from sort of out this way that you know they live locally they they love the horses and you know it just it sort of really works Georgina's worked for me for we were trying to work this out the other day we think six years um you know we're very sort of family run like my husband's the farrier and he does all the yard maintenance and my dad drives the box and leads up at the races and my mum's like on the yard 24 7 so you know it's kind of like I get to sort of almost live my dream and my passion.

But I mean, it obviously comes with its stresses.

And it's hard getting new owners.

so why why is it important to you or what was your theory behind bringing in I suppose working on the flat training the horses giving them a third purpose a dual like a purpose within racing or like talk to me about your training methods behind your mythology behind it