No one used the straws.

I think it would be a missed opportunity for us to not also have just like a slightly hard hitting conversation around capitalism in this conversation, because the thoughts that are kind of coming up for me is like, I think that in my experience, we've seen so many women who cut themselves off, like you were saying, Juliana, of like, oh, I only need enough.

I don't need all of that excess.

And what we're not doing is looking at the massive divide between what wealth and abundance and luxury and legacy would look like for present company, I'm assuming, and all of our values versus...

A trillionaire, if you will.

And the divide between what enough or legacy or like really exceptional abundance looks like for me and the place in which someone is like... really creating problematic structures for someone else and building wealth that is destructive.

The gap is so big.

So it really depends on what you're doing internally.