If not, it goes to the highest bidder.

Yeah.

Well, I think it's helpful to explain what makes a building COPA eligible.

And that might give a picture of the type of building we have and the type of government intervention that's already happening in these buildings.

So buildings would be eligible for COPA if they are for over a year in the alternate enforcement program.

This is a city-run program.

enforcement program where buildings that have extremely high levels of violations, real unsafe conditions, the city is really focused in and spending a lot of time in these buildings.

But what were the couple of major top changes you made to the bill between the last version and this version that now has passed with even more support in the council? Yeah.

So I was wondering if you could say if there was anything

I think I could start off and then we'll please jump in.

I think that one thing about the Free2P Coalition is it's so diverse.

We talked about this at our table.

And so we were able to show just how universal this is.

We had... our older adults with AARP.

We had domestic workers and nannies, deliveristas.

i think in the council member would you like the last word yeah i can

The UN was paying Haitians, who had just been through a traumatic natural disaster, in food or low wages in exchange for hard labor.

The thing that really just kinda snapped for me and, and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders, um, to make these walls to prevent the landslides.

And this is a job that most in the United States we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with, like, a, a backhoe or, like, a big claw Caterpillar thing.

These, these, these women are just moving these boulders, and I just said, "This shit is n- this is not for me." Like, we should not be asking these women to work for a sack of beans or some small dollars to do public works projects that are the job of a, a state, a nation state, or a government.

I walked away from that really let down by the promise of what I was being told as a child about the project of Am- Americanism.

Perhaps it was only because Occupy was kinda the only game in town, but our cynics, Sandy and Nalini, that I introduced to you earlier, were curious.

I had been following online a little bit, and one of my best friends, both of us were kind of these gloom and doom, disillusioned, apathetic, hate political culture.

What did it feel like from the inside? Occupy felt

very exciting.

There were a lot of people who would just stand in the park and host kind of mini conversations.

People broke into smaller groups around a conversation of what is the world you want to see? What is the future we want to see? What's broken in our system? People were just being...

raw with each other.

And that was replicated throughout the entire encampment.

So it felt like you could come in and you could find something that interests you that centered around the politics of The 1% versus the 99%.

How did Occupy Wall Street help activate your activism? Yeah,

The U.N. was paying Haitians who had just been through a traumatic natural disaster in food or low wages in exchange for hard

labor.

The thing that really just kind of snapped for me and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders to make these walls.

to prevent the landslides.

And this is a job that most in the United States we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with like a backhoe or like a big claw, caterpillar thing.

These women are just moving these boulders.

But our cynics, Sandy and Eleni, that I introduced to you earlier, were curious.

Being a leader in a hierarchical, traditional structure and being the center of so much attention has been an adjustment.

It's been uncomfortable.

You know, I'm a behind-the-scenes person.

I'm not really the talking head.

I was never, like, the best on a bullhorn.

You know, like, Nalini, great on a bullhorn on the stage.

That's not me.

She was born in Panama to two Navy sailors, a white American mother, and a Black Panamanian father.

I started as a kid who was a part of a US military occupying force, the mission of which is to exploit people, land, and resources for the benefit of the United States of America.

And I spent a lot of time, my, almost my entire childhood, uh, moving around the world and seeing the reactions to that, the consequences of that.

The UN was paying Haitians, who had just been through a traumatic natural disaster, in food or low wages in exchange for hard labor.

The thing that really just kind of snapped for me and, and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders, um, to make these walls to prevent the landslides, and this is a job that most in the United States we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with, like, a, a backhoe or, like, a big claw Caterpillar thing.

These, these, these women are just moving these boulders, and I just said, "This shit is n- this is not for me Like, we should not be asking these women to work for a sack of beans or some small dollars to do public works projects that are the job of a, a state, a nation state, or a government.

I walked away from that really let down by the promise of what I was being told as a child about the project of A- Americanism.

Here's Sandy, the direct action team member who had helped plan the somewhat disastrous Brooklyn Bridge march.

I had cops come to my house.

I had vans follow me around my block.

Someone that I had started to see romantically, when they got arrested, it turned out they were on, like, a domestic joint terrorism watch force list.

Sometimes an occupier would throw out an idea or argue a point that seemed potentially destructive, but when everyone was trying so hard to be radically inclusive and there were no set leaders, what do you do? Here's Sandy again.

Somebody showed up and decided they wanted to lead a march, and we don't know who this person is.

We don't know what everybody's agenda is coming in.

We don't know who is a informant.

She was born in Panama to two Navy sailors, a white American mother and a Black Panamanian father.

I started as a kid who was a part of a US military occupying force, the mission of which is to exploit people, land, and resources for the benefit of the United States of America.

And I spent a lot of time, my, almost my entire childhood, uh, moving around the world and seeing the reactions to that, the consequences of that.

The UN was paying Haitians, who had just been through a traumatic natural disaster, in food or low wages in exchange for hard labor.

The thing that really just kind of snapped for me and, and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders, um, to make these walls to prevent the landslides.

And this is a job that most in the United States we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with, like, a, a backhoe or, like, a big claw Caterpillar thing.

These, these, these women are just moving these boulders, and I just said, "This shit is n- this is not for me." Like, we should not be asking these women to work for a sack of beans or some small dollars to do public works projects that are the job of a, a state, a nation state or a government.

They

gave me a cheeseburger.

That was nice.

At the end of the day, they arrested, what, like 700, 800 people on these buses and people who didn't know they were going to get arrested.

It was a moment where a lot of conflict happened, a lot of media attention happened.

It brought greater numbers of people to the encampment.

You know, conflict generates interest, and that's what happened.

Even though everyone agreed that the problem was a capitalist system rigged by the 1%, they didn't agree on how to approach the problem.

labor.

The thing that really just kind of snapped for me and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders to make these walls to prevent the landslides.

And this is a job that most in the United States we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with like a backhoe or like a big claw, caterpillar thing.

These women are just moving these boulders.

And I just said, this shit is,

But our cynics, Sandy and Eleni, that I introduced to you earlier, were curious.

I had been following online a little bit and one of my best friends, both of us were kind of these gloom and doom, disillusioned, apathetic, hate political culture.

She was born in Panama to two Navy sailors, a white American mother and a Black Panamanian father.

I started as a kid who was a part of a US military occupying force, the mission of which is to exploit people, land, and resources for the benefit of the United States of America.

And I spent a lot of time, my, almost my entire childhood, uh, moving around the world and seeing the reactions to that, the consequences of that.

The UN was paying Haitians, who had just been through a traumatic natural disaster, in food or low wages in exchange for hard labor.

The thing that really just kinda snapped for me and, and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders, um, to make these walls to prevent the landslides, and this is a job that most, in the United States, we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with, like, a, a backhoe or, like, a big claw Caterpillar thing.

These, these, these women are just moving these boulders, and I just said, "This shit is n- this is not for me." Like, we should not be asking these women to work for a sack of beans or some small dollars to do public works projects that are the job of a, a state, a nation state or a government.

I walked away from that really let down by the promise of what I was being told as a child about the project of Am- Americanism.

Against all odds, the police had left them alone.

We woke up.

It was very calm the next morning, and people started organizing food.

I was making peanut butter jelly sandwiches.

There's one of these benches in the park that became the breakfast bench and eventually became the kitchen.

Breakfast, lunch,

The first one was in the morning, kicking off the day with an attempt to disrupt the opening bell at 9.30 a.m. Yeah,

let's disrupt business as usual.

She was born in Panama to two Navy sailors, a white American mother and a Black Panamanian father.

I started as a kid who was a part of a U.S. military occupying force, the mission of which is to exploit people, land and resources for the benefit of the United States of America.

And I spent a lot of time, almost my entire childhood, moving around the world and seeing the reactions to that, the consequences of that.

The U.N. was paying Haitians who had just been through a traumatic natural disaster in food or low wages in

exchange for hard labor.

The thing that really just kind of snapped for me and essentially just broke my heart was seeing on this mountainside these families old Haitian women in their flip-flops carrying these boulders to make these walls to prevent the landslides.

And this is a job that most in the United States we'd see on a highway.

You'd see people with like a backhoe or like a big claw.

Like, yeah, it's a bunch of people doing T- TikTok stuff, but, like, is it really posing a public threat?

I, I mean, like, I, I, maybe I didn't see terrible videos.

I, I mean, it's a lot of people, right? And people are drinking.

It's, it's a lot of fun.

But I was thinking about, like, in Philly, when they have games, like, the mayor goes and does, like, a press conference and, like-

[laughs]

And, like, we're not greasing the poles, right? Like, we don't...

I don't know.

But you see what you're provoking in business owners like Keisha.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, the point of, of, of legislation is, is public debate, right? So I welcome public debate, and I, I welcome engagement here because at the end of the day, those workers working in that small business, whether it's one or two workers, if they are p- getting paid seventeen dollars an hour, that worker is probably miserable, right? They are struggling.

They are living with a ton of people.

They are making choices.

When they leave that shop at night, they are going home making very, very tough choices about what type of food they can put on the table.

Is it healthy food? Is it junk food? They are thinking about, "Can I afford my prescription medicine at the pharmacy or not? Can I, um, pay for childcare or not? Do I have to stop working because I can't pay for childcare? Do I have enough money to get, uh, get on the train and buy my monthly pass?" Like, this is the challenges our workers are facing, and most of them are expecting to leave.

So what does that agency actually do, and why do you think it needs more money right now?

Uh, so, you know, I don't want to misportray what we're getting on the phones as somehow public opinion, period, but you see what you're provoking in business owners like Keisha.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the point of, of, of legislation is, is public debate, right? So I welcome public debate, and I, I welcome engagement here because at the end of the day, those workers working in that small business, whether it's one or two workers, if they are p- getting paid seventeen dollars an hour, that worker is probably miserable, right? They are struggling.

They are living with a ton of people.

They are making choices.

When they leave that shop at night, they are going home making very, very tough choices about what type of food they can put on the table.

So what does that agency actually do, and why do you think it needs more money right now?