Obviously, I'm Sandy,

one of the founders of Orca.

I'm originally from the northeast of Scotland, spent the early part of my career in investment banking and strategy consulting with JP Morgan and then Kearney.

I left Kearney 16 years ago to go to business school here in London, went to London Business School to do an MBA.

Not particularly with any firm idea what I wanted to do, but to move more towards SMEs.

I actually met one of the other co-founders of Orca, Pascal.

We were classmates at business school.

Did you take that class? Is that where the search? So,

So what was the catalyst for that?

Pascal and I actually joined after business school, a startup private equity firm.

It was a spin out from Fidelity.

And I actually then left, jumped sides of the table and I spent about five years in the exec management team of two private equity backed businesses.

So I kind of had a bit of investing, a bit of operating, quasi-entrepreneurship experience.

And then I went back into an investing role in 2017, so nine years ago, and I co-founded a small private equity business alongside two others.

So at the smallest end of the lower mid-market, we were investing in businesses making one to three of profit.

You're just running them well, bringing in that driven, incentivized, talented leadership to really take it to the next stage with some basic transformation.