and I've been

asked before, man, Sandra, you are really loyal to the NGH.

And I said, yeah.

So I've been, I was practicing hypnosis since 99.

I trained with Art Leidecker in 07.

And so I had eight years of hypnotic experience before I found NGH, right? And I will, and when I came in and I saw the professionalism, you know, the art taught us course and he was out of Chicago, you know, he's just so great.

And the professionalism, and I saw the support of the organizations and I heard about like the access to like, Back then, I think it was still VHS as the access to the library.

And, again, thank you so much.

Tell us more about it.

Well, I'm excited about the Thursday is often one of my favorite days of the convention because it's where I get to give the most and receive the most hugs, right? It's where we get to reconnect with all our solopreneurs out there in the world and we get to, you know, reconnect in that fun way of coming together.

This Thursday is particularly exciting for me because I get to do a pre-conference this year where I'm teaching the thing that I'm most passionate about in the last year or so, which is really supporting people and growing their practices.

So I mostly work as a business coach these days, supporting and training coaches.

And so hypnosis is the primary technique that we use.

And so talking about selling transformations versus sessions.

So many practitioners, they're really great at what they do and they're just like have all this skill and And yet they maybe haven't really had a business coach or had a lot of support in their business.

But I want to talk about everything else at the convention, not just what the presentations will be, but what excites you? What makes you want to come over and over to the conference? And it's open to any of our Any of our panelists here, if you want to just chime in, you can go ahead and let people know.

Now, you're doing one pre-conference, and that's going to happen on Thursday, August 6th.

Yeah, super excited about this class, Eric.

Here's the thing.

So I found out some statistics.

I don't know if they're still true, but some years ago that like 80 some percent of the hypnotists in the world are part-time hypnotists.

Like it's a side gig sort of thing for them.

And it was really crushing to me because I just love my full-time business as a coach and a hypnotist.

a great question just to throw out there, but it's an important, important role.