How do you think about your portfolio construction today? Will Saratoga ever be able to divest fully from coal as an example? Right.

I founded the company almost 30 years ago and we were just emerged from the Asian financial crisis.

So we're in a survival mode.

So my partner and I, we saw opportunities in terms of how we could bring investments into the country, create economic activities that open up opportunities and create good quality jobs that brings revenue to the country.

So we focus on, because of the Asian financial crisis, devalue the rupiah so much, we're looking into industry that produce dollar revenue mostly our export, and rupiah cost base.

So that's where we generate our alpha.

the return to investors.

and also monitoring some of the green