When did the abduction stuff start happening for you?

So the first thing that I could consider abduction, but it, it was more like in a, in a good sense.

I know that, um, people could have, you know, either good or bad experiences with this, um, and luckily I had a, I had a good experience when I was about six or seven years old, and it was the first one that I can recall that I have access to, which I- wholeheartedly believe that there are things that I do not currently have access to that maybe I will in the future.

And I know I've...

This is a, this is a recurring thing with people who've had these experiences as well is, like, I- there's so much of my childhood that is just gone.

Totally blacked out.

Mm.

Yeah.

Like the topics of your book, I don't wanna spoil it for anyone that would wanna look into the book, but is there a few things that you experienced when you were younger that kind of led you down this path of wanting to write about it? Like, what were some of the things that set off this whole chain of events for you?

Yeah.

So the house I was born in, um, it was ...

I call it the Britton House, because Britton, uh, was, was the name of the street.

Um, so that's just kinda what we call it.

And, um, it was built in 1923 in an old neighborhood in Lansing, and I have had ...

Just living there was like constant experience after experience.

But it's not something you hear very often.

Things were coming

up.

Right, yeah.

I was still having these encounters, and I was still experiencing these, like, the spiritual phenomenon, but it was more like, you know, the haunted stuff was gone, and now my eyes are open to this kind of stuff, and my senses are, you know, like, I, like, um, able to, you know, sense and see some of this stuff and now...

Perceive these things.

Yeah, perceive these things, yeah, um...

And, uh, one of, one of my most recent, uh, I'll just, I guess, I guess I can go over a couple of my most recent encounters and that would be more like the UFO related stuff.

So, other people in your family are also sensitive? Like, your daughter has had experiences?

And was there some kind of animal in the basement that you had a regular, a battle with?

And I call that, uh, a hellhound because I feel like that's kind of the closest thing I could call it.

Um, so during the day, in the physical, if you went down to the basement, um, the second that you open the door and you start going down those steps, it was like this, this attack kind of came over you.

You would get these body pains, and it was hard to breathe, and you would get these, these strange...

Just, just this draining feeling.

Something-- Like, you knew that something was down there, and it did not want you down there.

Um, and so probably about the time that I was maybe seven years old or so was when these out-of-body experiences started happening, where something would come, come to me, and something that was guiding me, and it would...

So even after you moved out when you were 18, something was taking you back there.