But yeah, what did you think of, again, just all that expanded stuff on the non-Grant and the kid side of things? Is there anything that stuck out to you?

No, I really liked it because I think... more realistic because I know in the movie everybody evacuates the island except for the support staff that need to stay or whatever but it's like would that few people have been there? Like, can those people support the park? I don't think so.

Like, again, a failing of, you know, thinking they had everything under control.

But no, I liked how, like, you can really picture in your head of like, oh, Wu's doing this over here.

Arnold's over here doing this.

Hammond's being a fucking idiot over here.

Like, Ellie has to go take care of Malcolm and give morphine shots or whatever.

what are some other favorite moments from the book because yeah it basically again the structure of the the book really is kind of the structure of the movie other than you know we get this pre-adventure pre-island tension and then we get the sort of denouement with the breeding and the raptor eggs and all that stuff but yeah what were some other favorite book moments for you

Yeah.

Yeah, I actually just wanted to mention that before I forget.

While I was reading it, I kept thinking of Buffalo Hunter Hunter by Stephen Graham Jones.

I don't know if you're familiar with that, but it is kind of historical fiction, but he writes about Native stories and they're the main characters.

And that is kind of...

Set in a similar time period where it just kind of clashed in my head because they were in the book when they're talking about like the buffalo.

Right.

Oh, the sewer going to come in and wipe out everybody kind of stuff that gets a little bit, uh, Tiring or just I don't know, I guess I'm just not that interested in it, so I just want more than that.

But yeah, what's your ocean shit background? Yeah.

Yeah, my ocean shit.

I think, like, every kid, like, every millennial was, like, wanted to be a marine biologist for some reason.

Most, you know, Lisa Frank, all the ocean-themed Lisa Frank stuff.

I think, like, Keiko, like, Free Willy and all of that.

Like, those movies are really... obsessed over them um and kind of adjacent to pirates because it's again like water um We made a just shift to a little bit deeper in water.

But yeah, no, it's just I think it was just one of those fascinations of like, what is this? Like, what's it what's down there? And then, you know, as you get older, you're like, I none of my business.

And so there is that sort of dream logic by the end of the movie, which the movie especially leans into at the end, because you're just like, I don't know what to do.

yeah don't but yeah like in terms of just like the way that this book is structured and plotted yeah like what was your overall feeling or just kind of your thoughts on all that stuff

No, I agree with you in going back to kind of the first draft vibes.

And now that I work in publishing, I'm going to drop a little publishing.

Not that I work with actual books, but I work adjacent with a lot of these people.

I give data to book people.

I love that.

Um, but in my head, I feel like this would have been something like the version we got would be going to an editor.

man tell no tales

Yeah

... where we see the, the cool little submarine scene.

But for the most part, the movie takes place about three years after the events of Jurassic World, where, you know, everything went to hell, [laughs] uh, and the park no longer exists.

And where we come in is finding out that Mount Sibo, which was a formerly dormant volcano, is no longer dormant, and there's an eruption impending.

And it's going to threaten the entire island and possibly kill all the dinosaurs on there.

From there, we get back to Claire.

Uh, Claire's had kind of a life change, and she is, uh, part of the Dinosaur Protection Group, which is, I think, a fun new group that was brought in for this film.

Yeah