Is there any good reason to keep time as one of the components, even when we go into the higher ed space, that's criticized that we should get away from time and go only to competency? Is there any argument that you see for keeping time as a component?

I mean...

Time is constant, and so it's easily measured against, and it is the same no matter where you are.

And so from that standpoint, it makes comparability between programs a lot easier and a lot, I think, not only easier to kind of administer, but easier for folks to understand.

You know, if we talk about some of the skills, or competencies that individuals kind of get through their education and training.

I think if I talked about, for example, public speaking or written communication, those might mean very different things to me than they do to you.

And so, again, kind of that common learning and understanding and contextualizing those skills and competencies takes a lot of work.

I'm wondering, what do you see, and you alluded a little bit to that it might be different in different states, but what do you see as kind of the broader future of education and workforce? And in that, do you imagine that more states will combine higher education and workforce development as Missouri has done?