So talk a little bit more about your practice and who you're working with, who's coming in, and we'll kind of dive in from there.

So with my practice, I primarily do young adults, older adults, but I do focus more on EMDR therapy, which is eye movement desensitization and reprocessing.

It is an evidence-based therapy modality.

And I got into it actually 'cause I worked in Newark, which is an urban area, and there is a lot of trauma there.

Let's just be real.

And it's hard to work with trauma.

One of the things was I felt just talking about it was a lot, and I felt like I was re-traumatizing clients based on just these conversations.

What, what's your thought there?