So Sam Ruby, welcome to the Ping Back podcast.

Oh, great to be here.

I'm not certain how much more I can add to that.

I've been literally programming for 50 years.

I worked at IBM for 39.

I did retire after about 25 months.

I had an application that I wanted to host on the cloud and Um, join flat IO because of it, because I mean, they wanted somebody who knew rails and, uh, I literally coauthored the book on it.

For folks who aren't familiar with that term or what it means or what your standpoint is on that, could you explain to folks what you mean by that?