Mm-hmm.

And we, she went through this moment of like, "I want the cake.

Like, I want that cupcake.

I want..." Because there was, like, cakes and cupcakes with this beautiful icing.

And, like, to be able to sit with her and just say, "You're right, sweetie.

Like, this sucks.

I'm so sorry." Not like, "Here's your cupcake.

What's that, what's that learning curve been for you? Like, what have been some of the challenges that you've faced since your daughter's celiac diagnosis?

What do you think needs to shift mentally, or how do you coach people to have this mental shift in order to practice intuitive eating? Like, I'm thinking about all of the self-talk that literally happens every single day, right? Like when I look in the mirror, when I open up the fridge, when I'm like thinking about what to make for dinner, like there's a lot of noise [laughs] up there.

Yeah.

Well, I think one of the things is recognizing where this noise is coming from.

Because when we look at intuitive eating, a big part of this is uncovering these belief systems that have been instilled in us from a very, very young age.

Something that I would recommend doing is two easy things.

One could be splitting a piece of paper in half or drawing a line down the middle and write good on one side and bad on the other, right? And under the good category, I want you to write every food that you've ever heard that is good or that you think is good.

And oftentimes we'll hear vegetables, salad, lean chicken, brown rice maybe.

How do we get a better sense of our own hunger and fullness cues?

Is that how it comes to be for you?

Yeah, great question.

So I g- I get this question a lot from younger dieticians too.

They're like, "Do I have to work with every single client that comes to me or, or, or can I only work with my, air quotes, 'ideal clients?'" You know, what, how, whatever you call it.

And I always say, you know, I want to support people who want to m- make peace with food and their body.

And when we look at the intuitive eating paradigm and the mission of intuitive eating, intentional weight loss is not a piece of the intuitive eating process, right? And so when people come to me and say, "I wanna lose weight," I don't, like, look at them and say, "Nope, sorry.

Next." [laughs] Like, I would say 99.99999% of our clients have a desire to be in a smaller body just due to the world that we live in and their diet, culture trauma, or eating disorder history or whatnot.

So can we c- is there an intersection, that's the big question of the podcast, between intuitive eating and GLP-1?