And everything is washed in reverb, yeah.

Exactly.

But anyway, for John's part, he could have been using the J160.

It's a little hard to tell, but there's a weird artifact thing throughout the recording that you probably wouldn't notice unless you really listened closely.

But there's a lot of like distortion and like cutting in and out for John's guitar, and it seems like the cable might have gone bad.

[singing]I mean, it was an 11-hour or 13-hour session, but-

They're so good.

It was so good, but he was so nervous and, like, I didn't understand why he would think it was a bad recording, 'cause it's amazing.

we say by okay so in the bruce springsteen biopic yeah you guys uh you played a small a small role fill us in what happened how did this go down

yeah so i'm in a band uh based in long island uh andrew weiss is my buddy so it's andrew weiss and friends uh we do original music but um we were asked to be like a county fair band in the the movie um and they said like you have you know one week to learn these songs you're gonna be like a country band not uh performing actually but like miming so you still have to learn the songs and make sure you look like you know what you're doing and um It's actually pretty funny.

My buddy said yes to a pedal steel player because he knew that I wanted to learn it, but none of us actually knew how to play pedal steel.

And so I had one week to buy a pedal steel, learn the instrument, and learn these complicated... country songs on pedal steel it was insane and then we filmed it um in like

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sunshine.

Yeah.

it's the word there's, that's all needs to be said.

So what do you know about it? How would this guitar have gotten into The Beatles' hands? Do we have any idea of how that might have happened?

I'm not entirely sure when they got the guitar, but going back to the Beatles For Sale sessions, I'm a Loser has a 12-string acoustic on it.

And some people have thought that maybe it was the Framus.

But there's a YouTuber named Perry Stanley, who has a huge Beatles collection, and he happens to own a real Framus Hootenanny from the '60s, which nowadays are very hard to find.

They didn't make many of them.

Anyway, he's very familiar with the serial numbers and how that works.

And looking at the photo from the auction and a close-up, he was able to determine that John's Framus would've been made in December 1964, which would've been a few months after I'm a Loser was recorded.

What is it you know about that in terms of George acquiring it and what it was used on?

Is that something you can speak of in terms of where he might have picked that up and where he starts applying it?

It's a good question where he picked it up because, you know, The Beatles in their early days, they were not like every other British Invasion band playing the blues and, you know, Chuck Berry-type stuff even though they did that.

"Till There Was You" has a lot of interesting chords in it, diminished especially, and during the solo, there's a strange, uh, sharp nine kind of Hendrix-y chord as well.

I don't know where they would've picked that up because as you know, the B7 story, they had to get on a bus in, in Liverpool in the early days and find this guy who knew this chord.

It's not like today where you can just type in, "How do I play this chord?" But either way, I think what's interesting is that despite their limited musical knowledge, they had so much time in Hamburg to mess around with their instruments.

As a guitarist who's been playing a long time, I can say you get very bored of D, G, A, open chords after a long time, and you start to mess around.

A good example I talked about with you earlier was in Get Back, George is on the piano playing "Old Brown Shoe," and he is playing an F7 chord with a raised F, which is actually an F sharp diminished chord, and he's asking Billy Preston, "Billy, what's this F7 with a raised F?" And Billy's trying to figure out what the name of it is too, 'cause he was just a virtuoso.

Do you see him then going into the solo years a continued sort of arc in terms of going somewhere different or developing it deeper? What do you see as far as his evolution goes as guitar player?