And with the canals, what's your go-to? What's your go-to technique?

Normally for the canals, depends on the time of the year, but generally, I, I like cranking canals.

It's a technique that I've sort of recently learnt, and it works pretty well, and I'm still getting better at it.

There's still a few things I need to figure out.

I've changed a few of my rods around so I don't pull hooks as much anymore.

I like a, a lot softer rod now, 'cause it was just a...

When I was learning to crank, I just was doing them on a s- on a little bit heavier rod, and that wasn't working.

But I think, uh, in our chat before, like you were, you were like, "Okay, this is, it's a bag but it's an average bag." But in the context of the competition that wasn't true, it was actually a pretty decent bag.

So Sam, any other tips for homes to shift from a care of families mindset to a care with families culture?

A lot of different things that I've heard homes do.

I think one that is super important and super useful is to implement the caregiver ID.

through the Ontario Caregiver Organization.

They do incredible work in helping homes and other healthcare organizations to understand the value of caregivers and to create meaningful ways to include them, including a recognition badge, including training and support specifically for that caregiver.

So I think that's one place to start is the recognition And that comes with that training home staff about how important this is.

Communication between the home and families should be appropriate, frequent, and through the mechanisms that we already use.

And Sam, what hope do you have for the future of long term care?

Sam, how can families be better supported during that transition, emotionally and practically, to help it feel like a new chapter rather than a loss?

That's a great question.

And, uh, as we've already pointed out, that transition time is incredibly stressful for families, and it can be complex emotionally.I've heard families say that, um, you know, they're sad, they're grieving, uh, about the decision, about that long-term care is likely going to be the last place their person lives, and so there's anticipated loss that comes with that.

But there's also families who have been relieved that they are no longer the primary caregiver, that they can switch back to being a family member, or transition to being an advocate, um, within the home.

And that can be a really complex experience.

So I think that in terms of the support the families would benefit from, taking advantage if the home has a social worker, um, to help acclimatize to this new reality, because it is a very different world from what most of us are used to.

Uh, it's a very different way of living, it's a different way of caring and of being.

Sam, any other comments or anything else to add?